From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8965D13933E for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2021 16:57:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7C8CE0AF4; Thu, 8 Jul 2021 16:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF835E0AF4 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2021 16:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from grubbs.orbis-terrarum.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01A19342A98 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2021 16:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9354 invoked by uid 10000); 8 Jul 2021 16:57:53 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 16:57:53 +0000 From: "Robin H. Johnson" To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting 2021-07-11 - call for agenda items Message-ID: References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WSeY7Gylmv1PZ5W9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Archives-Salt: 1ed20912-b1b6-41cb-80c5-4dce4e1c3b5f X-Archives-Hash: b481dfb649d7b6a88a9316dc17efc284 --WSeY7Gylmv1PZ5W9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 05:24:04PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I populated the example list based on tying the "Copyright: Sony Intera= ctive > > Entertainment Inc." commit messages to the author of those commits. >=20 > I was responding to the wording of your proposal: "the list is > copyright holders that the developer has worked for." >=20 > If I commit something copyrighted by Google, that doesn't make me a > Google employee, or suggest that I've done work on their behalf in any > way. I (probably without their knowledge) just copy/pasted their code > into the repo, under the terms of whatever license they released the > code under. I didn't say it did, read further below. > You could change the wording to: >=20 > "...where key is the identify of a Gentoo developer, and the list are > entities who own the copyright to parts of commits the developer has > made." >=20 > I really don't see the value though in making this association. What > good is it to know that somewhere in somebody's long list of commits > that there might be a few lines originally created by the Apache > Foundation or whatever? I agree it should be substantial works that could reach the threshold of copyright notability, and that's what I feel my list is. > In the case of actual employment it might make more sense if there are > extensive works for hire, but not if somebody just one time committed > one patch file that held somebody else's copyright. I'd say all of my entries do fall under more extensive works for hire, as multiple organizations I listed were my full-time employers for years, and I contributed to Gentoo on work time, for work purposes, under open-source licenses, with the approval of the company (easy in small companies). The separate list of consulting work I did also featured extensive works, e.g. one of the entries there funded my work to make Open-iSCSI work with LDAP authentication in Gentoo. Revised suggestion taking into account your concern as well as the separate thread that contributors without @gentoo.org addresses should be recognized: =3D=3D=3D key:=20 name of contributor and/or their associated unique email address (emails should not be duplicated in the keys) value: a list of entities who may own the copyright to parts of commits the developer has made =3D=3D=3D --=20 Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux: Dev, Infra Lead, Foundation Treasurer E-Mail : robbat2@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85 GnuPG FP : 7D0B3CEB E9B85B1F 825BCECF EE05E6F6 A48F6136 --WSeY7Gylmv1PZ5W9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Robbat2 @ Orbis-Terrarum Networks - The text below is a digital signature. 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