From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACEC5138334 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 02:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3750BE0921; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 02:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B38BE0920 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 02:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from grubbs.orbis-terrarum.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6C8C346E67 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 02:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8016 invoked by uid 10000); 4 Jul 2019 02:14:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 02:14:12 +0000 From: "Robin H. Johnson" To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Council demands on maintainers & council legal liability Message-ID: References: <20190615124220.fcf0c08b22481d5bc6c2dbe0@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="B2MJsc1fKeYMtnH+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190615124220.fcf0c08b22481d5bc6c2dbe0@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.4 (2019-03-13) X-Archives-Salt: 45871698-061e-485b-a560-45e80cb5ebd8 X-Archives-Hash: 90fc552b228a499292e495a16e1c8f1b --B2MJsc1fKeYMtnH+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I realize that there is only a short period left in the election, but I've been busy with IRL issues, and mgorny's trustee manifesto [1] ascribed something to the Council members that concerned me; there's one additional good question for the Council that I'll close with. 1. Points 1a&1c of mgorny's manifesto imply that the council can unilaterally prevent support of any given package in Gentoo, and basically remove the package from the distribution. This is despite any developers that may wish to support the package. What's your opinion of the council using this offensively against packages? As a hypothetical, say systemd-ng comes about, with an even worse opinionated choices than those presently in systemd. Should the council be able to force support for openrc & systemd stop? 2. As an additional point, can you try to give your version of a simple statement on the legal liabilities that the Council as a whole, and the Council members as individuals, have for their actions? [1] https://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/trustee-manifesto-2019.txt --=20 Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux: Dev, Infra Lead, Foundation Treasurer E-Mail : robbat2@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85 GnuPG FP : 7D0B3CEB E9B85B1F 825BCECF EE05E6F6 A48F6136 --B2MJsc1fKeYMtnH+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Robbat2 @ Orbis-Terrarum Networks - The text below is a digital signature. If it doesn't make any sense to you, ignore it. iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEveu2pS8Vb98xaNkRGTlfI8WIJsQFAl0dYPNfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEJE RUJCNkE1MkYxNTZGREYzMTY4RDkxMTE5Mzk1RjIzQzU4ODI2QzQACgkQGTlfI8WI JsSveA/6AtqBlARg5PETBwNolHsSQk+s+oespnh7l4m2NZmjkEZs9qW1r9YpSVdX 6paU98nkeT4fFdaY1vS2gEgByp03hOf+DAdL6ynU6Jhh57eTDNGHZuREPWvY+2JQ 1P1Crfx6Sm7L/QjOk/biQ+W8slmMsV2CP8XcN5X0LHCX5ucizgak7rYl/t5BZ9cK dVpd7dD8a8rZvvi5ulkil96EfiGBbpj96611NkEGKMhUCKosD82QyQ4riBXRDSau 3BSSX9hNRaDpM8JvnXmXPJjLKDc6R2qaC0xtBGdmw82ie69auxPxZvTAp9b1Pxk3 07HCJb0YsJ7iBjN4fyXhr+ttUIIIRy/C0T72n65YY48vN6HUzesFWEnuoNc5L3fQ JDRcJOd1CFVZNdrJdQxhqzimTC35CnPiX46Cjl5YFQl+s+Vt9x8CaVTFuCUR2WFH 9aqSH60D5N6Z4VXOF/GKGFKokXJAHmghu+ENMadr91OOyfpfgmcZN22KWuYH3OE8 kB7EUEUwLEcnhtR/NPnrOuIDRGBfxCNte2q59m4pmKM5kSAndHOi+v6iWKGuxoso e1EItpw28/ur3txVpotUXlbodVvcl0XopZM+ns0TJVG1vknCkpnT3WOmMVkLydVI 5Q+nIbYpCtKMNadNoSSvgyQ8PPfMub8PKsIQ7yawdpC6HFCXCNE= =fzH7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --B2MJsc1fKeYMtnH+--