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From: "Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Council demands on maintainers & council legal liability
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 02:14:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <robbat2-20190704T020554-669193988Z@orbis-terrarum.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190615124220.fcf0c08b22481d5bc6c2dbe0@gentoo.org>

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I realize that there is only a short period left in the election, but
I've been busy with IRL issues, and mgorny's trustee manifesto [1] ascribed
something to the Council members that concerned me; there's one
additional good question for the Council that I'll close with.

1. Points 1a&1c of mgorny's manifesto imply that the council can
   unilaterally prevent support of any given package in Gentoo, and
   basically remove the package from the distribution.

   This is despite any developers that may wish to support the package.

   What's your opinion of the council using this offensively against
   packages? As a hypothetical, say systemd-ng comes about, with an even
   worse opinionated choices than those presently in systemd. Should the
   council be able to force support for openrc & systemd stop?

2. As an additional point, can you try to give your version of a simple
   statement on the legal liabilities that the Council as a whole, and
   the Council members as individuals, have for their actions?

[1] https://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/trustee-manifesto-2019.txt

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Robin Hugh Johnson
Gentoo Linux: Dev, Infra Lead, Foundation Treasurer
E-Mail   : robbat2@gentoo.org
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-04  2:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-15  9:42 [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15  9:49 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: GLEP 76 Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15 10:20   ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-06-15 16:17   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-16 22:01   ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-18 14:12   ` William Hubbs
2019-06-18 15:43     ` Luca Barbato
2019-06-18 15:47       ` William Hubbs
2019-06-24 22:18   ` Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-25  6:15     ` Michał Górny
2019-06-28 11:49       ` Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-28 12:09         ` Rich Freeman
2019-06-28 17:51           ` Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-30  4:48           ` desultory
2019-06-30 18:53             ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-01  5:02               ` desultory
2019-07-01 11:59                 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-02  4:24                   ` desultory
2019-07-02 11:57                     ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03  4:31                       ` desultory
2019-07-03 11:13                         ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-04  4:32                           ` desultory
2019-06-30  7:11   ` Patrick Lauer
2019-06-30  7:42     ` Michał Górny
2019-06-30  8:03       ` Patrick Lauer
2019-06-30 22:27         ` Robin H. Johnson
2019-07-01  1:31           ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-15 10:00 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Power balance Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15 10:34   ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-06-15 21:25   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-16  7:31   ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-16 15:56   ` Roy Bamford
2019-06-16 22:18   ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-17  1:38   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-18 14:41   ` William Hubbs
2019-06-30  7:26   ` Patrick Lauer
2019-06-15 10:24 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Bringing new people Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15 16:24   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-15 21:23   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-16 18:51   ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-16 22:21   ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-19  2:39   ` William Hubbs
2019-06-16 18:09 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo as hobbyist distro Michał Górny
2019-06-16 19:13   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-16 22:39   ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-19  6:24   ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-19 15:45     ` William Hubbs
2019-06-21 14:55       ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-19 14:32   ` William Hubbs
2019-06-20 14:48   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-21 13:21 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: your achievements Michał Górny
2019-06-21 20:46   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-21 22:59   ` Georgy Yakovlev
2019-06-22  6:44   ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-06-22  7:06     ` Michał Górny
2019-06-22 22:57   ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-24 11:05     ` Mart Raudsepp
2019-06-24 11:25 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: traits of a good Council member Michał Górny
2019-06-24 23:23 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation Robin H. Johnson
2019-06-26 19:45   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-26 21:54     ` Matthew Thode
2019-06-26 22:03       ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-26 22:06         ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-26 22:13           ` Matthew Thode
2019-06-26 22:28             ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-30 19:21             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-26 22:08         ` Matthew Thode
2019-06-26 22:15         ` Michael Everitt
2019-06-26 22:22           ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-28 23:49           ` Andreas K. Huettel
     [not found]             ` <20190630215422.GA22747@bubba.lan>
2019-06-30 21:55               ` Aaron Bauman
2019-07-01  7:50                 ` Michał Górny
2019-07-01  9:31                   ` Roy Bamford
2019-07-01  9:52                     ` Michał Górny
2019-07-01 10:02                       ` Michael Everitt
2019-07-01 10:04                         ` Michael Everitt
2019-07-01 19:42                         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-01 19:44                           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-01 20:10                             ` Alec Warner
2019-07-01 21:14                               ` Roy Bamford
2019-07-02 12:40                                 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-01 11:26                       ` Roy Bamford
2019-07-01 12:07                         ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-01 19:34                         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-03  4:42                           ` desultory
2019-07-03  6:12                           ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation - Treasurer Response! Robin H. Johnson
2019-07-03  9:51                             ` Michael Everitt
2019-07-03 10:47                             ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 11:05                               ` Michael Everitt
2019-07-03 11:22                                 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 11:27                               ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-03 12:27                                 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 13:45                                   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-03 12:56                             ` [gentoo-nfp] " Michał Górny
2019-07-03 13:08                               ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 13:17                                 ` Michał Górny
     [not found]                                 ` <20190703143429.yfieiru7cyykr5ca@gentoo.org>
     [not found]                                   ` <6b84c0a026551472a05e776921182ba8dae6fb1e.camel@gentoo.org>
     [not found]                                     ` <138757e484f751d567fb2702ce27de3e3e215a15.camel@gentoo.org>
2019-07-04  2:05                                       ` [gentoo-nfp] Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation - Treasurer Response! (part 2) Robin H. Johnson
2019-06-30 10:36 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees Roy Bamford
2019-06-30 16:48   ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-30 20:17   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-04  2:14 ` Robin H. Johnson [this message]
2019-07-04  6:26   ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Council demands on maintainers & council legal liability Michał Górny
2019-07-04  8:03   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-04 20:33     ` Alec Warner
2019-07-04 23:46       ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-06  2:54         ` desultory
2019-07-04 13:36   ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-07-04 16:37     ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-07-04 18:49       ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-07-04 19:22         ` Ulrich Mueller

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