From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CF7138A1A for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 04:29:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF194E090B; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 04:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58941E090A for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 04:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from grubbs.orbis-terrarum.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B8FF34089C for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 04:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3055 invoked by uid 10000); 18 Feb 2015 03:47:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 03:47:31 +0000 From: "Robin H. Johnson" To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-project] Infra Kickstarter? Message-ID: References: <201502142148.30540.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20150215070454.12e20dda@pomiot.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: c4e48dee-7ccc-4c02-a746-3fe8f470db48 X-Archives-Hash: 0f35aba409bc64e539a88895bfe6cc42 On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 07:10:53AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 4:01 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > > > If I could afford to spend the more than just volunteer time on Infra, > > yes, I'd love to have few full 40 hour weeks to put into cleaning up our > > cfengine and puppet to where it's significantly easier to manage. > > The one thing I was trying to avoid doing was giving an impression > that the infra team isn't busy doing work that helps everybody around > here. > > You summarize the problem well here. You're too busy due to a labor > shortage to do the sorts of things that would help reduce the labor > shortage. Of infra staff, in 2014 antarus left infra, and we gained dastergon prometheanfire redlizard. bonsaikitten turned us down again, as he's busy running the gentooexperimental infrastructure. > I don't mean to trivialize the problem, either. Gentoo has a lot of > donated infrastructure, and a decent amount of cash when you're > talking about replacing hard drives and such. The problem is that we > really don't have the kind of money it would take to take on even a > single employee. I've wondered in the past, about doing a Kickstarter/IndieGogo to pay me for spending a month or two on Gentoo, based on the model of the very successful Django kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andrewgodwin/schema-migrations-for-django (there have been other open source kickstarters since then, but the Django one was one of the first that delivered just open source software). If I wanted to do it full-time, for the cost of living (with my wife and 10 month old daughter) in Vancouver, at a bare minimum, I need it to be at least $6000CAD/month before taxes. Potential major projects for it, in a rough priority order: - Get rid of cfengine - Migration of services off some of our oldest servers - Split-model Puppet (like Wikimedia) - Projects Hosting (mostly repurposing 'kup', but needs some dev work) - Split mail & dev.g.o - eu.dev.g.o box (post-split of mail) - Official Gentoo cloud images, from releng (because they'd make infra's life easier too). - List Archives - Website revamp Stuff that is NOT on the table (and why) - Git migration - We're actually just blocked on a specific new sponsor for more than month now, they bought a nice new box, and they have to fix something in their network. This also needs to have a self-sustaining result, not an expectation that it will be repeated in future. -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux: Developer, Infrastructure Lead E-Mail : robbat2@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85