From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K4t83-0003jM-Vi for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 07:46:24 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D12A0E051D; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 07:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA527E051D for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 07:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFD064E9F for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 07:46:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -0.545 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.545 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.872, BAYES_20=-0.74, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sEfKc+CokDXs for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 07:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB0E64A43 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 07:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K4t7l-0000cy-5K for gentoo-project@gentoo.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 07:46:05 +0000 Received: from 80.238.251.215 ([80.238.251.215]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 07:46:05 +0000 Received: from dev-zero by 80.238.251.215 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 07:46:05 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org From: Tiziano =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?= Subject: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 Followup-To: gmane.linux.gentoo.project Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:45:53 +0200 Organization: Gentoo Message-ID: References: <3c32f69c0806041700h42cc5110y34400ec34184e77c@mail.gmail.com> <1212690820.2631.1@spike> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.238.251.215 User-Agent: KNode/0.10.9 Sender: news Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 702edf45-aa42-43ca-aae8-83d8b5600b5d X-Archives-Hash: 5390e48d3d18f563fca9ed0db7bde9cd Roy Bamford wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > On 2008.06.05 01:00, ?ukasz Damentko wrote: >> Hi guys, >>=20 >> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 are open now and will be >> open for the next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2008). >=20 > Team, >=20 > I don't want to nominate anyone who hasn't been nominated already. > I would like to address all the candidates who have or will accept > council nominations. >=20 > 1. Please tell us how/if you plan to fix GLEP 39. (You may not consider > it broken) a) A GLEP 39 is a "proposal" to do/implement something and should not be used as a way to finally document something. So, if we want to fix it, we should write down a new GLEP replacing GLEP 39 and then write that information down where it belongs to: in proj/en/council (and/or the developer handbook) b) Reading GLEP 1 you'll see that there are only two types of GLEPs: "Standards Track" and "Informational". One is for technical stuff and the other for organizational, but: "Informational GLEPs do not necessarily represent a Gentoo Linux community consensus or recommendation, so users and implementors are free to ignore Informational GLEPs or follow their advice." So we either have to stop using GLEPs for such kind of "rules/definitions= " OR redefine how GLEPs should be used properly for changing organizational processes. We should finally stop doing cosmetic changes or we will forever struggle with outside people who know our rules better than we and as a result was= te our time and energy and block our processes. Cheers, Tiziano --=20 gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org mailing list