From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix4QT-0003rs-OH for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:40:50 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with SMTP id lARHeQt7009289; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:40:26 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lARHePug009279 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:40:26 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEAE65534 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:40:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: 1.257 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.257 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.811, BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6DxE7zfZ1Lhc for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641666547D for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix4Ph-0002uM-KD for gentoo-project@gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:40:01 +0000 Received: from 82.153.79.245 ([82.153.79.245]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:40:01 +0000 Received: from slong by 82.153.79.245 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:40:01 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org From: Steve Long Subject: [gentoo-project] Re: maintainer-wanted bugcount Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:44:32 +0000 Message-ID: References: <474A95E4.6000906@gentoo.org> <20071126100504.GN4368@supernova> <1196107396.19657.13.camel@ip6-localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.153.79.245 User-Agent: KNode/0.10.4 Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 17fc4dde-19c8-4694-9a44-3a2efa215529 X-Archives-Hash: d2558aac694d826eadc81698f59ec7bc Hans de Graaff wrote: > On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 14:12 +0100, Markus Ullmann wrote: > I actually did look into this briefly a few months ago, based on the > same observation of so many maintainer-wanted bugs open. Based on > looking at some random bugs my observation was that most upstreams still > exist. Whether or not they are dead is another matter that requires some > more time, as does assessing if the package is still relevant for the > tree. > > I'd be happy to revisit this and start combing bugzilla in a bit more > structured way and close maintainer-wanted bugs when applicable, but it > will be slow going. Any other volunteers? I imagine a quick write-up of > goals and "rules" a la treecleaners should be enough to kick this off. > That's cool for the devs; I'm wondering if we can't bring users into helping with bugs a bit more. I appreciate that there is a link to bug-wranglers, but something like this is much more conducive to getting user help for the stuff that clogs up bugzilla: http://live.gnome.org/Bugsquad In particular, the triage guide at: http://live.gnome.org/Bugsquad/TriageGuide ..seems like a really simple (in the sense that it's just a webpage) way to get users to be a help rather than a hindrance. A link to: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html would seem useful as well. How would the bug-wranglers feel about this; *plop* ? > Voting could really help to bring maintainer-wanted bugs to our > attention. Currently only 3 bugs have any votes for them. If more people > would dish out their votes it would become more clear which packages > would please a large number of people and there may be more incentive > for maintainers to take them. > Makes sense; maybe if a dev asked on the forums (Gentoo-chat would be best imo) for users to vote on maintainer-wanted stuff they'd like? It's not a guarantee that they'll get in, but at least it helps with this housecleaning, gives some data for stuff that people can put into sunrise if they want to start working on ebuilds, and lets users know they're valued. We certainly value the work you do :-) "If you treat your beta-testers as if they're your most valuable resource, then they will respond by becoming your most valuable resource." http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/24325 -- gentoo-project@gentoo.org mailing list