From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IwjeX-0005ya-Nj for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:29:58 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with SMTP id lAQJTenQ005729; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:29:40 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lAQJTdrD005723 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:29:39 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A0E650C5 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:29:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: 1.157 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.157 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.725, BAYES_40=-0.185, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bZatWMaHu3og for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:29:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D14650F0 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:29:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iwje2-0000Sd-AB for gentoo-project@gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:29:26 +0000 Received: from 91.84.166.20 ([91.84.166.20]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:29:26 +0000 Received: from slong by 91.84.166.20 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:29:26 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org From: Steve Long Subject: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] maintainer-wanted bugcount Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:34:15 +0000 Message-ID: References: <474A95E4.6000906@gentoo.org> <20071126100504.GN4368@supernova> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 91.84.166.20 User-Agent: KNode/0.10.4 Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: b4c4c5c5-2622-479c-ad24-031fa33aa10e X-Archives-Hash: ee93c7c603521298370f780caffb719a Markus Ullmann wrote: > Donnie Berkholz schrieb: >> What is bad about the current state of leaving maintainer-wanted bugs >> open? What problem is it causing that you want to fix? > > Currently a bunch of them are either > - dead upstream for quite some time > - don't work with a current system Those should just be closed WONTFIX then, surely? > - are replaced by better tools we already have in the tree > I'd do the same for those, personally. I don't see the point if the packages are not going to be brought into the tree, since there's no need for them. There are plenty of other ebuilds to deal with, without getting into stuff Gentoo already provides. > People put a lot of work into that, maybe it's their first ebuild) or > for some apps it's simply a hard job to hack up a working ebuild. When > that stuff then just bitrods without any notice, users become > disappointed. > Agreed. This relates to the wider issue of prerecruitment that hkBst mentioned. If the "collective web interface" idea is good, why not give it encouragement? Or at least some constructive feedback if you don't like the idea. There doesn't seem to be much encouragement to users who try to help out (with the odd exception, which stands out on the m-l simply because it is so rare); rather there's more an attitude of snobbery, which is ironic given how little coding is involved in ebuild maintenance, and frankly seems bizarre given how overloaded you all are. Although ofc that attitude is meted out to other devs as well. I dunno how you all put up with it tbh; it certainly doesn't look fun from the outside. -- gentoo-project@gentoo.org mailing list