From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F7AF139085 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D215DE0D70; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (mail.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9324BE0D6A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:e1cc:3::10] (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:e1cc:3::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: prometheanfire) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F27B5341142 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Merging Trustees and Council / Developers and Foundation References: <57d3af79-4212-b8b9-40df-6120b1445c8b@gentoo.org> <20170105225649.17fc8f79.mgorny@gentoo.org> <6395872.cxIrWEFQuW@porto> To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org From: Matthew Thode Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:21:05 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wobkP5pjFgjsoiwIxAJvOhRKs2kdcsnEC" X-Archives-Salt: ea55d7d4-ce6d-4a9f-816e-d01757a016d2 X-Archives-Hash: e4f569e4c38242a4c87511d669c5e126 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --wobkP5pjFgjsoiwIxAJvOhRKs2kdcsnEC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="jGk2JunXHFS8ipHpud2pT5nL5RPuiBeUp" From: Matthew Thode Reply-To: prometheanfire@gentoo.org To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Merging Trustees and Council / Developers and Foundation References: <57d3af79-4212-b8b9-40df-6120b1445c8b@gentoo.org> <20170105225649.17fc8f79.mgorny@gentoo.org> <6395872.cxIrWEFQuW@porto> In-Reply-To: --jGk2JunXHFS8ipHpud2pT5nL5RPuiBeUp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/09/2017 11:39 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 01/06/2017 02:48 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> Am Donnerstag, 5. Januar 2017, 17:14:51 CET schrieb William L. Thomson= Jr.: >> >>> Keep in mind the US is founded on freedom of speech. An open source p= roject >>> could be argued along the same lines as freedom of speech and express= ion. >>> Not to mention an argument could be made for technical benefit of all= , etc. >>> >> >> As someone routinely dealing (outside Gentoo) with technology that fal= ls under=20 >> US export control, I can assure you that freedom of speech has absolut= ely=20 >> nothing to do with this topic. >> > What type of software would that be, if you don't mind me asking? Is it= > something specific with US <-> Germany (that's your home country right?= ) > laws? >=20 > The only thing I've ever seen was the US's classification of encryption= > as munitions and, for a while, banned its export. >=20 > Clearly, that didn't work out for them and encryption is more important= > than ever. What else does the US try to control in software? >=20 Anything to do with rockets counts. That was fun to learn :D (side note, I'm gonna reply in bulk to this thread soon) --=20 Matthew Thode (prometheanfire) --jGk2JunXHFS8ipHpud2pT5nL5RPuiBeUp-- --wobkP5pjFgjsoiwIxAJvOhRKs2kdcsnEC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYdH1SAAoJEGSje+quGaToM0AQAMYEdsvHtSaeJWRp5rwCgBbZ rDbJOazDfUmnAWV7hS+Nh+/nNkKLA73UcU63d7dbTzQlablMIRG74xrI7kPZ+vyl VQNFy5P6uvEFodNY2GSLKMToU5krWWwqIeZpE+Q3vhh5OqauDV9OT02D4XkJjMO3 VclhUwfpiazL7ICE7xyAMEGRCtSWSRQRUMHY720KgS0IRcwuet27xCPLato5woS9 pqIaoTm4rGhXSSdr2NnEsllJIkT3Z8+5wVElyILKNEiPKaIz6rmL8LmlT/ijxd4y oI+wmBJGyezHDU6LHRP/h824/eMWAL4CYDhlwCFrJShiFMlQK9ofTeCCQFIroazz P9ONIdVXF1sykuh/OAzeFtRX2plle4B3XqBIvXgRsDqbpOcOp7nVHHJIO3b4Db9v Bpp+LTQAISBpDsVEfwOVEyYMQyKUYweglm9GUSwel22A3Metyg4CTNKJ61m72hsC 0uhk5auD9WYfQ2PYxum4RF9JkGP77cTlMKAjaD45ZvnZCeiGgtRE126Ya7URNrqX tIqBmLYZlFXWAWm2nhsNW9NAC6wGRenyDEotCgmya0KZJ1aD7DoRL0sunfInHSZd U2H9zkR8wDRk/YZM9gg+4wmZlWAosm6muAJpQJS9zdvd2O/FTAw8SgnD/udgr059 9PleIGvwNnwzs4r7r7K8 =HbR3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wobkP5pjFgjsoiwIxAJvOhRKs2kdcsnEC--