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From: "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@iee.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] RFC: Expanding Foundation Bylaws, section 4.9 Termination from Membership
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 23:12:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7826dfd-5026-f93a-dd79-4ccbf1e1401a@iee.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDOV4_XG-SQRh=9PGGjYPuUyu0xTYjhHwic2GuAeWGQiSw97g@mail.gmail.com>


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On 08/02/18 23:04, Daniel Robbins wrote:
> zlg, I agree somewhat, but I think that people shouldn't get a 'free
> pass' to engage in unprofessional behavior just because it's a
> volunteer project. I think that there is a general understanding that
> in a 'professional' environment, you want to try to be polite and get
> along with others. I think that this is the underlying principle. You
> are not free to interact with everyone as you see fit -- the primary
> purpose of Gentoo communication infrastructure is to create a
> welcoming and constructive environment for those who participate in it.
>
> I think it would be pretty easy to come up with a few bullet points to
> clarify how strict "professional" is. It is not my decision to make,
> but I'd suggest maybe something like the following:
>
> * Be sensitive to the fact that people come from other cultures and
> may have other values than you do. If engaging in personal
> conversation, it is very possible that someone else will find an idea
> or activity you have as being offensive -- especially when it comes to
> politics, religion, and other 'hot button' issues -- things you may
> feel are perfectly appropriate. In these instances, we will ask that
> you refrain from discussing these personal ideas or activities on
> gentoo infrastructure (forums, IRC, mailing lists, etc.) and move them
> to non-Gentoo channels, as the priority for Gentoo is to have a
> welcoming environment for all people wanting to discuss issues related
> to Gentoo, first and foremost. Purposely engaging in off-topic
> 'hot-button' discussion on Gentoo infrastructure is considered
> trolling and will result in your access to Gentoo infrastructure being
> limited or removed.
>
> * Different cultures have different expectations when it comes to the
> use of profanity, and good-natured "ribbing" (teasing.) What is
> acceptable is highly dependent on the specific individuals included in
> the conversation (both active and passive participants.) We admit that
> it can be difficult to determine what is "OK" and "not OK" in
> conversations. Here are some guidelines. We will insist that you do
> not use profanity directed towards an individual or group. if you are
> sensitive to profanity, be aware that there are those on our project
> who will say a 'bad' word from time-to-time. If you are saying
> something sarcastically, use a smiley-face or other emoji to indicate
> that. Others will require adjustment of their choice of words. If you
> have offended someone with your words, we ask that you apologize and
> make amends. We also ask that those offended forgive and move on, with
> the understanding that your personal moral standards may not be shared
> by everyone. Remember that it is everyone's responsibility to try to
> make people feel welcome here, and the primary goal is not to allow
> you to act however you want but to create a supportive environment for
> Gentoo-related discussion and work.
>
> Something like that, I think, could be useful.
>
> -Daniel
>
>
+1

I think having [worked?!] examples provides people with a good
contextual background for establishing a fairly consistent baseline
standard for all interactions.
ie. something like "do this, will result in this, do This and This is
likely to happen"

And then enforce it .. clearly and consistently .. you win trust and
respect this way.

Michael.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-08 23:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-08  4:50 [gentoo-project] RFC: Expanding Foundation Bylaws, section 4.9 Termination from Membership zlg
2018-02-08  5:41 ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-08 21:18   ` zlg
2018-02-08 21:34     ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-08 22:03       ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-08 22:17         ` Matthew Thode
2018-02-08 22:33           ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-08 22:39             ` Matthew Thode
2018-02-09  7:32               ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-02-09  7:48                 ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-09  8:04                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-02-09  8:20                     ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-09  9:00                     ` zlg
2018-02-10 17:29                       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-02-09 14:23                     ` Matthew Thode
2018-02-09  8:24                   ` Michał Górny
2018-02-09  8:32                     ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-10 17:17               ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-02-08 22:29         ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-08 22:43       ` zlg
2018-02-08 23:04         ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-08 23:12           ` M. J. Everitt [this message]
2018-02-10 17:39         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-02-10 22:31           ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-10 22:36             ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-10 22:46               ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-02-10 22:57             ` Michał Górny
2018-02-10 23:16               ` Matthew Thode
2018-02-11  5:03               ` Daniel Robbins

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