From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F3AC138334 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B582E0933; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30BBCE092E for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F05263410DD; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2019-04-14 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 18:41:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20190414191329.f4df8a3586df31d68aca2f00@gentoo.org> References: <20190401032055.GA9497@linux1.home> <232747ba-063c-821f-a66d-5f106ed2aa82@gentoo.org> <60AF1A45-5DCF-4C0A-8907-7F47A6049462@gentoo.org> <27790972.lP4YeSZpGR@porto> <20190414182815.66b095e3466f1de88884b733@gentoo.org> <20190414154806.GE29860@monkey> <20190414191329.f4df8a3586df31d68aca2f00@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Mn3MBLDlHkTQOMl0uf83" User-Agent: Evolution 3.30.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 92099e5c-641e-48ff-8dc7-58341e58bb11 X-Archives-Hash: d0fff9a6d74ea8739213c19efda2e829 --=-Mn3MBLDlHkTQOMl0uf83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2019-04-14 at 19:13 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 11:48:06 -0400 Aaron Bauman wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 06:28:15PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:11:50 +0200 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > > > I support the idea of Gentoo being more inclusive. > > > >=20 > > > > Can we please keep irrelevant buzzwords out? > > >=20 > > > There is nothing irrelevant here. Gentoo is kicking people who > > > want to contribute because doesn't want to respect their privacy > > > because of some imaginary problems which were never appeared or > > > tested in real life. This makes Gentoo exclusive to those who want > > > their authorship to be public. > > >=20 > > > Best regards, > > > Andrew Savchenko > >=20 > > Andrew, it is not imaginary. Playing the emotional game doesn't help > > either. I am fairly certain all of those who had to make this decision > > have expressed their willingness to change it should it be supported > > legally. It simply is not. >=20 > If it is not imaginary please provide a court case against Gentoo > or other free software distribution on this matter and some > evidence that proposed signed-off real name attribution played a > measurable effect. >=20 > As far as I can see this whole story is pure speculation of: > 1) what may happen > 2) what will help if 1) is to happen. >=20 > So far I saw zero practical evidence on both points. So to summarize, you're claiming that you're allowed to do anything as long as the other person can't prove somebody has already been punished for the same thing? I suppose that's a pretty interesting concept of law. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-Mn3MBLDlHkTQOMl0uf83 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEXr8g+Zb7PCLMb8pAur8dX/jIEQoFAlyzYqlfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDVF QkYyMEY5OTZGQjNDMjJDQzZGQ0E0MEJBQkYxRDVGRjhDODExMEEACgkQur8dX/jI EQoOuQ//cnqlpHJszYN4K9SlnwEtXlaZAJWL81MGoijNLEpmxGaH5jvCd+WcfyIw TkJd6YCZ3pd2Dk/gBEruw2804IL03HfWQkf+Z7JOjgOznZQlGBPDE0aGlVQ81d3X 6smykDUvQwSGTw+Eno4/4Q1c48S1LW/LYupU3nsIoy+W8BaCNkhf3A/J/1KsuYmT xj46ttbsLpFWdoHvRXIA9HKjx6C1xMz4iDlIHD6ggYAbqOtbLbjj/cOnRmOtPFP7 GM4SUDb1/z+PmwIUlg9cXeMJwya5/MLLb/qgWVz4Faw+s27BIpPZutP9oNHhcj69 iaIdUSc1iOMCj5r4oO2pzzrIZwqbo4zEGNgsKAtoxb7jz6WPBDb+jnr7d3QbIQOU OvyuN0XMhDq5YoDRfYvcQMXesPu3AWdVFrB/EqnXzvLLNydaZPd9PUx9Oa5zD8x+ VgOXhYBAIoSTTx/gj19QpEuV3VJEpDdMexO6B/mBTouqDFVDwFS5SfP6mzFrCmor PTRtSNa1f8Tcc0JLpYclXjqLLj6rmJsCjQtVE9cJnG0rRwBHOkuZMkSCInUm9UB8 U7KJ1n1f219IpNwWdyFjUQyJ7huH+Ce8XagiOM5hl2dwT/d++HtG6To09ZvWgFzi qXTHl7cT+p9wAb4R+2AS5rkinAAALsEfmOtN5QxSIUjZBxqHwY8= =Pngn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Mn3MBLDlHkTQOMl0uf83--