From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BF63139085 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B2F2234044; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7AFD234043 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phjr-macbookpro.local (dynamic-78-8-13-113.ssp.dialog.net.pl [78.8.13.113]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: phajdan.jr) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B193F340BEA for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:22:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] ComRel / disciplinary action reform proposal To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <20170115195209.70d3a748.mgorny@gentoo.org> <5db6cef2-34b4-6355-0563-9c242b229e08@gentoo.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Pawe=c5=82_Hajdan=2c_Jr.?= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 14:22:09 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5db6cef2-34b4-6355-0563-9c242b229e08@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FOjtrVbPqr94kibWhCo70HfQKKI9lvTG6" X-Archives-Salt: 10e25f7a-a8f2-4705-abec-e48e5c5f5542 X-Archives-Hash: b2ed905ccc151b9f90aa628eb30bc653 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --FOjtrVbPqr94kibWhCo70HfQKKI9lvTG6 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="b3luPHuDcqgKCAD9qMIOBVP5eJ6Ptcg4V"; protected-headers="v1" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Pawe=c5=82_Hajdan=2c_Jr.?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] ComRel / disciplinary action reform proposal References: <20170115195209.70d3a748.mgorny@gentoo.org> <5db6cef2-34b4-6355-0563-9c242b229e08@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <5db6cef2-34b4-6355-0563-9c242b229e08@gentoo.org> --b3luPHuDcqgKCAD9qMIOBVP5eJ6Ptcg4V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 16/01/2017 05:56, Dean Stephens wrote: > I think this proposal is utterly unworkable in practice. While the > intention is rather obvious, and heavily geared toward actual > contributing members of the community at large, the proposed > definitional scope and structure are incompatible with actual workloads= > already in place. >=20 > [...] >=20 > As it stands, disciplinary actions are handled per medium and channel, > with appeals going first to those with direct authority over that mediu= m > or channel, then to ComRel, then the Council. This is simple, > consistent, and most of all it is on the whole effective; all while > minimizing the amount of make work. If there is meant to be an implicit= > argument that this is somehow insufficiently documented, by all means > make that point, ask people to document things more pervasively, do not= > discard a working system because someone could not be bothered to read > the documentation. Good points. IMO the proposal also has good points, and just needs to be updated to take scalability issues into account. Maybe routine things like spam could go through forums-specific channel. I don't see a reason to get a bug filed for each of these. Pawe=C5=82 --b3luPHuDcqgKCAD9qMIOBVP5eJ6Ptcg4V-- --FOjtrVbPqr94kibWhCo70HfQKKI9lvTG6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYfMkCAAoJEOOGGXc/wLdauscP/3rDx1m+UbPdW+1WLjcljvF3 FrwbG59yJSue3IBuIUIR95+JDPYSR4hRdQ9gAt6qPMNWhU9xnyFKRxWQiICbT8UF M/ofuyHOQ3Sas7ERZ1PRQ/aldukdFQRjAR/aOmZ7/VaaLZtGoosGcxVqi2B0076S n5+yGiQMvzQrw0h698+fBwDqRGbpI5UJljL9D9ZnwdfxQy8F6cxJv1+rI6LYvXLz QY15sCzz1Np1NZkwRqrMXSn+pXEd6AVOdvYVgJ6DvOf4tQGRIyp7tOOr/HBhKvS2 6wBWV+vcKxKE6JKUBekEjezSqL7FYRaifdQX/QGI2pwHK1kISIrIG+AkpiJ65YJP OoC+hsWfLxZnrNXnrEhoYByS/mUE8nBfYs9ExCMDVxekfUIyr5CZzlsYtME09F8E uL4jyomG6c595J7gxXDdAzkNGhTe0LnUskLQr9NT6JlnG2CDBMvXlXCfkzjynpVB DgFa2uefqc2kv/2oz3oSBOUq3ez+baGEA61R6LTMdl1OtsDfz5oxMaat+eTeUo5G L7ZXK9lBsowtYNOzv6DTMbYq5LAJQGyekIUm52WcEzTyRKrMh7tM5qMM875zDo+L L6HChalqWOCh2zJuEo7VTEyHmZ9s0IW4/YPOJZlaQVmzhxfHN9agD3nVH3QeYDLt vMIxMZJkLvCwbqndSmrL =oHZz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FOjtrVbPqr94kibWhCo70HfQKKI9lvTG6--