From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9425138334 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 06:26:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A35FE0877; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 06:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28CFCE085E for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 06:26:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2695F346C35; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 06:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Council demands on maintainers & council legal liability From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 08:26:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <20190615124220.fcf0c08b22481d5bc6c2dbe0@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-QP1dkGmbW1G6i5ZJo26b" User-Agent: Evolution 3.30.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 8a51e275-6fd8-4dc3-803c-f4b1c8d2e371 X-Archives-Hash: e3bc84420d6aad339aac8f1c3ef59f8c --=-QP1dkGmbW1G6i5ZJo26b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 02:14 +0000, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > I realize that there is only a short period left in the election, but > I've been busy with IRL issues, and mgorny's trustee manifesto [1] ascrib= ed > something to the Council members that concerned me; there's one > additional good question for the Council that I'll close with. >=20 > 1. Points 1a&1c of mgorny's manifesto imply that the council can > unilaterally prevent support of any given package in Gentoo, and > basically remove the package from the distribution. >=20 > This is despite any developers that may wish to support the package. For the record, I think you are ascribing to me something I didn't mean. Sure, Council can adjust the direction distribution takes (=3D decide on the default, suggest developers what to work on) but I don't see it as completely blocking support for anything. My examples were rather exaggerated. >=20 > What's your opinion of the council using this offensively against > packages? As a hypothetical, say systemd-ng comes about, with an even > worse opinionated choices than those presently in systemd. Should the > council be able to force support for openrc & systemd stop? >=20 > 2. As an additional point, can you try to give your version of a simple > statement on the legal liabilities that the Council as a whole, and > the Council members as individuals, have for their actions? >=20 > [1] https://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/trustee-manifesto-2019.txt >=20 --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-QP1dkGmbW1G6i5ZJo26b Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAABCgB9FiEEx2qEUJQJjSjMiybFY5ra4jKeJA4FAl0dnAFfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEM3 NkE4NDUwOTQwOThEMjhDQzhCMjZDNTYzOUFEQUUyMzI5RTI0MEUACgkQY5ra4jKe JA4aeQgAuUtb+qsDIqVbr4bdpEToV0rs77/NCGCAtjMI7ATfStgiTB0N16vVQMUC s5g1xnBlNyNYGqzZEs0LQKLofufTQJz0JjZe6xbcFHTzQwBkj4IUYC30vSU53t58 nrZJOo2zJHpmliVYaCpqra6fm3mD28A55qeSd8/CIdOhSYeAyON9neoo1Onm1+ek 1JWZ/C0XRTy7OXGMATcKS4XrVbI4xPUBNg9AV4e+pBzuJL8p3Y1TszMsk1y1RYyD XstxfKfyWcrH9YRibMrnWbQlgfU83PPdJVN32eDry/hHGHvKjUZ0BjIDwN0gGP23 a8bSGdUNYnMvgIjPPAnyR5zqvXY4oQ== =mHpz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-QP1dkGmbW1G6i5ZJo26b--