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This is not a change of policy, but merely > a clarification of the real name requirement: >=20 Traced the language to a commit from 2006, seems to have zero open discussion for its legal reasoning, or any specific cited model for how or why a person writing their name is valid (I can't find any evidence of a legal analysis performed at the time, or since) - specifically, language in the LKML commit: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.commits.head/85223 ["The DCO does not mean anything if we allow anonymous contributors to the kernel. As this is an open source project, we need to do everything in the open."] This meme (in the original sense of being like a gene, though inherited and expressed and mutated by way of memory and idea. the modern sense of the word "meme" doesn't resemble the original) Could benefit from some open legal review. Ironic for multiple organizations to express the same sentiment without considering the legal intent of a signature: "I have reviewed this, and am marking it as such" is far less valid when it is not witnessed or authenticated. (as by a notary or officer of the court) I'd like clarification of the origin of the requirement, but this is as far as I'll go, publicly. I don't wish to be the voice or face of this issue. 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