From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-project+bounces-9708-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EF931382C5 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Mon, 3 May 2021 20:26:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88BEFE08C4; Mon, 3 May 2021 20:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64C55E088F for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 3 May 2021 20:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <e911e002fc6bae44e4a9942dc6c7ffb78978605d.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2021-05-09 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= <mgorny@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Date: Mon, 03 May 2021 22:26:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: <YJAJVEffPy9wMgku@linux1.home> References: <YIW8b2W8TPHFRAuZ@linux1.home> <4775262.irdbgypaU6@pinacolada> <aaccd641-d41f-d3bd-957c-e7cc68cd5237@gentoo.org> <YI9sYoh9KLTCm0XM@linux1.home> <00d9f2b305889294210bb01748d2045a0cd603f0.camel@gentoo.org> <uo8ds89fd@gentoo.org> <0f1ee1c3d7e95cc5fbd0e36807ffdde20b26512b.camel@gentoo.org> <YJAJVEffPy9wMgku@linux1.home> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.40.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-project+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list <gentoo-project.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 1bb508db-b21d-45f2-a72b-1e175d6d447e X-Archives-Hash: bf9e24b7386d6e9e4f11c004799830aa On Mon, 2021-05-03 at 09:31 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 12:39:21PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-05-03 at 11:15 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, 03 May 2021, Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 2021-05-02 at 22:22 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > > > > > The way I see it is, if the council wants funding for something > > > > > they > > > > > can request it from the foundation, but I don't think they can > > > > > direct > > > > > the foundation not to fund something someone else requests. > > > > > > > > > > Also, given Antarus' response in the thread, I'm not sure there is > > > > > anything for council to discuss. > > > > > > > Does 'being not sure' authorize you to arbitrarily decide to skip > > > > agenda items from the community? > > > > > > I don't read William's reponse in such a way. The Council can still > > > discuss the issue, and the Foundation may or may not listen. > > > > > > Ultimately it is up to them how they want to spend their money. > > > I believe that part is clear. > > > > However the response is to be read, there's no item for this > > in the agenda. So it's pretty much a single Council member individually > > deciding what Council discusses or not. > > You know that in the past some things that have come up on the call for agenda > items thread have not ended up on the agenda. Past violations are not an excuse. > As was already said, any discussion we do around this doesn't really > matter since we do not control financial issues for the distro. > With that attitude you may as well say that devs don't have to listen to the Council and disband it altogether. -- Best regards, Michał Górny