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Mon, 24 Feb 2020 08:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <20200217161812.GA5969@linux1.home> <441737a3d1c0efdfc9f95b1cb1fde47b0f55d58f.camel@gentoo.org> <126ac095ce1f3cd3fd75c4ad977d9ed1e08123df.camel@gentoo.org> <7c54caacaed187e36b3302ccc7d8d4c435247d24.camel@gentoo.org> <553d7247-6a9e-de4f-b352-bfb63fa1d4bf@gentoo.org> <83e58794abdb245c64fdea68784a3f0e28b6d755.camel@gentoo.org> From: Mikle Kolyada Autocrypt: addr=zlogene@gentoo.org; keydata= mQENBFtCkdwBCAC7LGb65KM8ZhysEDzbBnggTsUMXMZ3pJWFQtLaxm8f99p2HL9GFcEP94A6 BXExWzMcIba/AdL0ogU2mS/Jbs7DHUFVRT3yQDtiq+md5h3hZvi52QyRlELWG9ElDLuUse5E 58WJgLx+SXD5qgUowqTgCzNbXAJQNKQtNWIC+Zy29m53Xj8yBnRsRuwd0kO/Zn7DJL5dCKL2 ItzfJNpG5MTayLyNkl3QgCqPPFsQEd7aqqqhxq1pn/dwX22vyMJwsv/6SV5vaNTYSg9p8hVn r3mLVYg6/UIvwAIgNJKhQlG1bkoOq5+jgq8a7GdRUeY8fHSqLERucmal8fBqWmvZH+jRABEB AAG0Ik1pa2xlIEtvbHlhZGEgPHpsb2dlbmVAZ2VudG9vLm9yZz6JAVQEEwEIAD4CGwMFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AWIQRRPEwdu6XuhrjZQ70+fhwhqdFLlwUCW2fApgUJBEPe ygAKCRA+fhwhqdFLl7CeB/9qYF51wrMuzpLW/znrH0YZmYo9pm7kmLxbWezJH74hH97rJOer X+RoNR0nAGrBdZzObiHWhXah5BFrln8Fyv8oE5IDnO9OCN+PE8hXSSSYv6VvtNX6FXgMaqvR XC5kd1/ugvpPmwbbfTp0uasRATjlsXSfb7FAMLAcP2lYbv1dFA2mUHNCtFtIg7Zu+KJTXyeN wPEXrMtgt4j3zL96Drq1AOxkR5D5pPYnzJG+xrOpRoarXVjCI6MsYYKd+E6WRQPIgkeY4mxK FBK3sSNQMAY+FNiWNK3G4529zCLzekv4KQHDSRnfOhfevOogiUCnNUWl9pRDI7uRfSjP0JZw wLi2uQENBFtCkiQBCACkXeNeajg+f6XKDGJOHnxMs3PUeaaqx36wRkevzWjY20VwzSYOq2zn dXP/9Sz7mrJc2aQRXSAfbSeJvsInG/jyBI3vz2Lm6pRx3FkzHatjli5lEhtM6CQIpfZ9Rp18 YiJfrjnah/3UesBekbBOouxQv6188z/Hdilot6opvh1rd1sBE7ugB9w7E11e92bRLfuzCxa/ gKEu2CnH38zq5PQUvFVxRYuKeVXDaSFZc9IFNuysTW5EZOaowL6weeYFktChmvOR/WlSWBIk mrqRSwqJWoj0w2VDt/pzAE0RtQ1gztMcpzKOLSfyPrgP33UAb7VY/fjOwoggqFS0v3dEgj/z ABEBAAGJAnIEGAEIACYCGwIWIQRRPEwdu6XuhrjZQ70+fhwhqdFLlwUCXKDZ9gUJAz97UgFA wHQgBBkBCAAdFiEEWmyBGnI+Eihw6dN8HICQJIqVl8cFAltCkiQACgkQHICQJIqVl8fQzAf/ d9upIp1pgsBC8ie8fwN6mVMiE/u44LimyWBm/G813a0utxYIG10oBGQojq0LuOaLRBm/dvZz wl7ptDwIOubrvAXy6uGY0SOu+e05sKS730Pm5AoRsBx2UDdBIng3Xl/96FlIS8jDLDYgYh0F TXoKb6TNobWJD8caaFS1GC/iDil8AaFZcTPLtPtdDpC2rdQzOHfloVjDk93CZDUEGb/OXSfO nNk93mfXOoCu2Qmwb+bKOeavUPf5+yNiPFzz1/ktnuGXZrgsojRU2m+piyD3zWxisLuDLqP8 GSqYpNpt1JyRTXX6+FqOcGpFv/dineOJXFJaRXwVs0z3IwXYr394awkQPn4cIanRS5fgsAf8 DUKEr7K4tEEXbxKFgpq5P05jKWaQcFSHZN2WG18f89ARJABgAk5APTRD+UvJv9xcy5i8rhvW VJ6JPkYtjxP9r4wQKA7qVpS0ni6DEfweDtcUrIjZu7vdevUNdu4zBv97gK7hyCuy7f3FETPX AsD/99hHMJcKSjeJ/zJ84g/W7BhjZZUp+ZmpC1BdLiU3ZJEHSUBtbBasJDRIvxWqAu95AAfr rdqSDcthe/eIGcBUgrfLD3PESQfO/Q74nuWinsgIGCvO8LB7kc0pWAtTHhraPLyLq+XqvVMK /RoW4g/4pO4d2G3Xt/gSKnLcWtPbd654HUnSi28y/Am3Nx5jfVi68LkBDQRbQpP0AQgAroTc ZKog9QT3rYF6PDWRVk1MBsJgDM5Xl2amZqP5TVOEwXgQNu6f5rwsfANRqCdsSfhn3odYmPWo Yy1hRCFZeXcDEc6l5tG5JRGt9SIxrCFPsfnfpY2h5ll9ycxiveKf3g+xUO72UEtDY979W0LZ 2/xxDOaWd5XGKt+Dmncsx4vMktCi54a4M3JWnLJqfx5nP7gIWXNqzqEEUFIZ2NbJFpPu89jb zglVcgfpWVqDirnOk17wh1C15YFkZHlek+ErwbsfS2hGESqpJRu5q3MatYWYvVwGgCkdtORw WguVKdBS3sOEo+IFIsckglnR3lq+ElXje6vVFqpcJAB0K9AMMQARAQABiQE8BBgBCAAmAhsM FiEEUTxMHbul7oa42UO9Pn4cIanRS5cFAlyg2fYFCQM/eYIACgkQPn4cIanRS5ex0gf6AhBQ F9t918l4l+q+mHzyeaWNO6E3neh2Ibv2FEyR84RXU5+4hXKIkKvWdpaX+PEre8tTAu0fvQF5 ivtc0mpx74SqkUR+g8u8mVY8JzsmiWwCu/Adx+nEzwo1XkzzwiThKnIGwieaulT7N77otTHE g2wdeIr4Epn6/ro5y/QPEbvjoJAfw/ByyVadH1pA4HNbvBwC04xfCpbF4QSDqLZXSY8PX7Je UfN4m3VjKoxrYHYox0B/l7F1GMV7xhXBy2/uP17InEG4ezswr0yIbNrGQrpvBtuDC3sBQUmZ 0ZvJVRUFFXGoDfLcqDP4gK24UnddF8OSKKStbk8ueP3o96xDsQ== Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 11:47:12 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83e58794abdb245c64fdea68784a3f0e28b6d755.camel@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CtS5M6diWHqq7U9Wq4eVzGYbMwOBqdzC8" X-Archives-Salt: 239b6512-9271-4e65-8b70-71fa83f21ece X-Archives-Hash: 738ce8d244b3a73f075b7338328ee423 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --CtS5M6diWHqq7U9Wq4eVzGYbMwOBqdzC8 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="EyMkz5WYvjO1wqN65jJSCnzbe1xXxH9o5" --EyMkz5WYvjO1wqN65jJSCnzbe1xXxH9o5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US On 24.02.2020 11:39, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 11:36 +0300, Mikle Kolyada wrote: >> As a result we have more busywork, this all can be conveyed to Council= >> directly. Also this is unclear to me how a review body will decide wha= t >> to appeal and what hot to, as the data is still being kept private and= >> reviewers are going to only have a decision on hands. Having only >> decision is not enough to start thinking ComRel did anything wrong >> (well, unless there were direct rules violation, which, to my knowledg= e >> has never been the case). > The whole point is that the review body has direct access to all > the data (i.e. bugzilla privs, comrel@ alias, IRC channels). Unlike > your 'individual' it is considered trusted and therefore you don't have= > to 'prepare' data for it. > Then as a result you are going to have yet another semi-closed process=C2= =A0 which does not make the entire procedure more transparent (which was the main concern of this thread). --EyMkz5WYvjO1wqN65jJSCnzbe1xXxH9o5-- --CtS5M6diWHqq7U9Wq4eVzGYbMwOBqdzC8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEWmyBGnI+Eihw6dN8HICQJIqVl8cFAl5TjZAACgkQHICQJIqV l8eX3wf9Hhfg0dcyXxd6dWF+coJy97+zH0Qm4xxOk9MOvQgV0UwzqAJz7P0OyXz9 YnTcorrmM5njQVJlUbHdPaA4DnpPlHkIPubHHgXA2rU2PYOg9iyOOxqMJBsjy31g 7pBSencrmzhuYo9GfEbzc7YdleLuRCB5UJVmqaXgW10PnJX/n+xdDEkx75wBfHJ3 i7k3byb0R689196uZSHBc6GIweHZ7R2kX9eXp5IMxeTcTaO00hRzAk27VfKIhXEP 7EXjbdsco7bt4tOGf5x3DMBh727fLLA0EwTFbQEzG6FXQpUgceJbQlO5scK0M7So nkxEvTIEe+7HVAfkrLKpg2darLAXQQ== =0tV2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CtS5M6diWHqq7U9Wq4eVzGYbMwOBqdzC8--