From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 050D21382C5 for ; Mon, 3 May 2021 14:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF4CEE0823; Mon, 3 May 2021 14:25:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56527E0814 for ; Mon, 3 May 2021 14:25:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2021-05-09 To: "gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org" References: <4775262.irdbgypaU6@pinacolada> <5244342.BddDVKsqQX@pinacolada> From: Thomas Deutschmann Organization: Gentoo Linux Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 16:25:34 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5244342.BddDVKsqQX@pinacolada> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vJbbBTvsnlXwdmEHawTuleETEdaLBaHfE" X-Archives-Salt: 16d86fd0-1889-44e7-bbe0-3fbc8b220bf0 X-Archives-Hash: 473bf76e26f6057bc4414ab387d68f73 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --vJbbBTvsnlXwdmEHawTuleETEdaLBaHfE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="T7951qSdbQ9lQ76iL02fSVZLCtjhqGWKm"; protected-headers="v1" From: Thomas Deutschmann To: "gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org" Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2021-05-09 References: <4775262.irdbgypaU6@pinacolada> <5244342.BddDVKsqQX@pinacolada> In-Reply-To: <5244342.BddDVKsqQX@pinacolada> --T7951qSdbQ9lQ76iL02fSVZLCtjhqGWKm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2021-05-03 15:55, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> Is this really a topic for council? >> >> Isn't foundation an independent body and if someone requests funding >> from foundation and will get it approved... >=20 > Given that I still see it as my agenda to eventually >=20 > * get rid of the foundation > * move our assets to an umbrella > * and have only one elected body (the council) deciding, >=20 > mostly to have clear lines of responsibility and less potential for > infighting, >=20 > yes, definitely. >=20 > (Also, some of the current foundation officers got elected with more > or less the same plan. :) But all of this concerns a potential future -- not today. And before any of this can happen, foundation must come up with the=20 first move and declare such a plan in general (I think they were working = on this and started to evaluate possibilities but after some umbrella=20 organizations rejected their requests the process became stale). My point is, discussions should happen in public, on mailing list. If there is something for council meeting, i.e. a possible motion, this=20 must be discussed on mailing list first and shouldn't get created during = a meeting. So having just a discussion during meeting without a clear=20 goal/defined end, is likely a waste of time as agenda item. If you just want to talk about this for some reason and don't plan to=20 bring forward a motion or something, please move this to open floor=20 which will allow non-council member to join and others to leave because=20 it isn't part of the mandatory meeting anymore. --=20 Regards, Thomas Deutschmann / Gentoo Linux Developer fpr: C4DD 695F A713 8F24 2AA1 5638 5849 7EE5 1D5D 74A5 --T7951qSdbQ9lQ76iL02fSVZLCtjhqGWKm-- --vJbbBTvsnlXwdmEHawTuleETEdaLBaHfE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="OpenPGP_signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OpenPGP_signature" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- wsB5BAABCAAjFiEEExKRzo+LDXJgXHuURObr3Jv2BVkFAmCQB94FAwAAAAAACgkQRObr3Jv2BVl3 ZQf/Y/rQAnwkN/c81xjhz3vzcNWnP4bpZrRzDhP87J0WUs2+pll1a33WXp4CMzxf6OE37LiTzofr 7nK62093RvdeMZFmmCbm/squj+DaMc5gvwguG2DCcKi17jgvZrFDHYNV+RYpOYXTloqwPpgnFdHh vEBWfaCtdwJQsRWhLG+qRCJ85Nx9QgWmi96Sg8ioN2xUMQOV9u4ehkxa5fsSRY6X4bxYGiUAmhBc SCAOoziajZfrYeqoJdQFZ2Wr0en1UDyiyy9uPuvwktiBEhKJcwckiIALTs1pOrSynGBa3U3jP8WA VlNyAUgRPLZ2TvxAizr3/gCstJDygDwGdB6gH85yng== =kyXQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vJbbBTvsnlXwdmEHawTuleETEdaLBaHfE--