From: Michael Everitt <m.j.everitt@iee.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation - Treasurer Response!
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 12:05:22 +0100 [thread overview]
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On 03/07/19 11:47, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:12 AM Robin H. Johnson <robbat2@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> At an outward glance, this does imply that some umbrellas would be
>> cheaper than a CPA, while others would be more expensive; but the
>> equation is more complicated, because we need to be careful about the
>> accounting of services that the umbrella would provide.
>>
>> The equation therefore should be more of:
>> Cost(Umbrella) vs [Umbrella baseline without umbrella-provided expenses]
>>
> You also need to consider the tax savings themselves if the umbrella
> is 501c3. That is also a percentage of the net (the CPA costs being
> deductible most likely).
>
> You also need to consider services that we would receive that we
> currently lack. After all, Gentoo hasn't spent a dime on CPAs for a
> long time, but that was hardly a true savings.
>
What makes you suggest we need the extra services that would be included by
an umbrella org? What services are you thinking of? If Gentoo hasn't needed
them the past decade, why would they be useful now? What would be the cost
if the Gentoo Foundation Inc procured these services separately? How does
this provide a cost saving? Can you prove this is therefore "better value
for money" if despite having less "expenses" as Robin points out, but
larger net income, and hence larger net fees?
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2019-06-15 9:42 [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15 9:49 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: GLEP 76 Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15 10:20 ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-06-15 16:17 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-16 22:01 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-18 14:12 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-18 15:43 ` Luca Barbato
2019-06-18 15:47 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-24 22:18 ` Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-25 6:15 ` Michał Górny
2019-06-28 11:49 ` Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-28 12:09 ` Rich Freeman
2019-06-28 17:51 ` Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-30 4:48 ` desultory
2019-06-30 18:53 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-01 5:02 ` desultory
2019-07-01 11:59 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-02 4:24 ` desultory
2019-07-02 11:57 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 4:31 ` desultory
2019-07-03 11:13 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-04 4:32 ` desultory
2019-06-30 7:11 ` Patrick Lauer
2019-06-30 7:42 ` Michał Górny
2019-06-30 8:03 ` Patrick Lauer
2019-06-30 22:27 ` Robin H. Johnson
2019-07-01 1:31 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-15 10:00 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Power balance Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15 10:34 ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-06-15 21:25 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-16 7:31 ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-16 15:56 ` Roy Bamford
2019-06-16 22:18 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-17 1:38 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-18 14:41 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-30 7:26 ` Patrick Lauer
2019-06-15 10:24 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Bringing new people Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15 16:24 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-15 21:23 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-16 18:51 ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-16 22:21 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-19 2:39 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-16 18:09 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo as hobbyist distro Michał Górny
2019-06-16 19:13 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-16 22:39 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-19 6:24 ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-19 15:45 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-21 14:55 ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-19 14:32 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-20 14:48 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-21 13:21 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: your achievements Michał Górny
2019-06-21 20:46 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-21 22:59 ` Georgy Yakovlev
2019-06-22 6:44 ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-06-22 7:06 ` Michał Górny
2019-06-22 22:57 ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-24 11:05 ` Mart Raudsepp
2019-06-24 11:25 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: traits of a good Council member Michał Górny
2019-06-24 23:23 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation Robin H. Johnson
2019-06-26 19:45 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-26 21:54 ` Matthew Thode
2019-06-26 22:03 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-26 22:06 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-26 22:13 ` Matthew Thode
2019-06-26 22:28 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-30 19:21 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-26 22:08 ` Matthew Thode
2019-06-26 22:15 ` Michael Everitt
2019-06-26 22:22 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-28 23:49 ` Andreas K. Huettel
[not found] ` <20190630215422.GA22747@bubba.lan>
2019-06-30 21:55 ` Aaron Bauman
2019-07-01 7:50 ` Michał Górny
2019-07-01 9:31 ` Roy Bamford
2019-07-01 9:52 ` Michał Górny
2019-07-01 10:02 ` Michael Everitt
2019-07-01 10:04 ` Michael Everitt
2019-07-01 19:42 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-01 19:44 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-01 20:10 ` Alec Warner
2019-07-01 21:14 ` Roy Bamford
2019-07-02 12:40 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-01 11:26 ` Roy Bamford
2019-07-01 12:07 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-01 19:34 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-03 4:42 ` desultory
2019-07-03 6:12 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation - Treasurer Response! Robin H. Johnson
2019-07-03 9:51 ` Michael Everitt
2019-07-03 10:47 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 11:05 ` Michael Everitt [this message]
2019-07-03 11:22 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 11:27 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-03 12:27 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 13:45 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-03 12:56 ` [gentoo-nfp] " Michał Górny
2019-07-03 13:08 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 13:17 ` Michał Górny
[not found] ` <20190703143429.yfieiru7cyykr5ca@gentoo.org>
[not found] ` <6b84c0a026551472a05e776921182ba8dae6fb1e.camel@gentoo.org>
[not found] ` <138757e484f751d567fb2702ce27de3e3e215a15.camel@gentoo.org>
2019-07-04 2:05 ` [gentoo-nfp] Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation - Treasurer Response! (part 2) Robin H. Johnson
2019-06-30 10:36 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees Roy Bamford
2019-06-30 16:48 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-30 20:17 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-04 2:14 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Council demands on maintainers & council legal liability Robin H. Johnson
2019-07-04 6:26 ` Michał Górny
2019-07-04 8:03 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-04 20:33 ` Alec Warner
2019-07-04 23:46 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-06 2:54 ` desultory
2019-07-04 13:36 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-07-04 16:37 ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-07-04 18:49 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-07-04 19:22 ` Ulrich Mueller
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