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([2601:602:9c00:cf41:a15c:1ca:cdf1:57a3]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id a1sm14736907pfl.69.2016.10.07.08.07.04 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 07 Oct 2016 08:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Trying to become a Gentoo Developer again spanning 8 years... To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <832d6b86-ee0e-4509-7f74-1e19fd4e4db9@gentoo.org> <46323553-e9c0-8d52-3c2a-a75b0245c7ce@gentoo.org> <1475842976.4388.0@smtp.gmail.com> <1475849132.4388.1@smtp.gmail.com> <1475850760.11751.0@smtp.gmail.com> <8691ba20-6f93-61e8-b0e4-82496db31eed@gentoo.org> From: Nick Vinson Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 08:07:04 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8691ba20-6f93-61e8-b0e4-82496db31eed@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W13hGx4HlAVGmuHcfja09MEPa2MncmuGa" X-Archives-Salt: 5eac437b-657f-458e-9c9c-a3811e64f2b7 X-Archives-Hash: 83f09a1e68a111aefacb70ab0110cb81 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --W13hGx4HlAVGmuHcfja09MEPa2MncmuGa Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="QBkDaU3UBSgK0wUS6dLATN7wBe0H28iDL" From: Nick Vinson To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Trying to become a Gentoo Developer again spanning 8 years... References: <832d6b86-ee0e-4509-7f74-1e19fd4e4db9@gentoo.org> <46323553-e9c0-8d52-3c2a-a75b0245c7ce@gentoo.org> <1475842976.4388.0@smtp.gmail.com> <1475849132.4388.1@smtp.gmail.com> <1475850760.11751.0@smtp.gmail.com> <8691ba20-6f93-61e8-b0e4-82496db31eed@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <8691ba20-6f93-61e8-b0e4-82496db31eed@gentoo.org> --QBkDaU3UBSgK0wUS6dLATN7wBe0H28iDL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/07/2016 08:00 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 10/07/2016 04:54 PM, Nick Vinson wrote: >> If the developer is really a problem, >> then ComRel will be given repeated chances to deal with the developer >> and eventually (well hopefully not eventually) the "due process" will = be >> done correctly and the developer will be removed. >=20 > Not necessarily, bringing back might on its own open up for especially > PR issues, but also potentially legal ones. So its not as simple as s Maybe, but I'd happily accept any bad PR that resulted in me choosing not to punish a dev because it was unclear that the dev deserved it. And as for the legal issues argument, if such a scenario was to occur, then I argue the dev should still be brought back (because again it's not immediately clear that the dismissal was proper), but the Trustees should also be notified. They would be the ones who should handle such situations not the Council or ComRel. -Nicholas Vinson > try-try-try-fail. >=20 --QBkDaU3UBSgK0wUS6dLATN7wBe0H28iDL-- --W13hGx4HlAVGmuHcfja09MEPa2MncmuGa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJX97oYAAoJEAQpRPZaa5gqKbMP/3f0tQje8CmzXdQJEr450omo abxOsPRGhpFVG2GnCU1t6pn+k9MjopeNRxBMzkq+LygZnfULEFlu1bGn12CnWUPu KiNgq//5iM/VFKpq3gpoNraRb/GhkHrzwFJakqIYlnLxta/FoE3B84FzO7Vy9e6A NBse0SictZHkqxfZxA0MMkTa7Sf5qZirFaNoV3Y00pPNCqt2iWjN5LjC9m1HS3KL AikI0NuKoZjvyc/kkX8tJe2fm5eH+eQjkBjK4dAKvnUhcDaD/v6zENyH262XZqhv jEkYnfK3FXVuNouPWTE2FmtRCeHmxrsu9gmq+BTKp42PLE7u2AkrebjNedDW2YVs KIerJJ6GOCKI5AJ83eEaL0SfUHcocN2tPg02Y3Y4yGH8snjbmto2mJ5D/1hebNhB N4wut5SpuDZr7XbzblRqE+zTv8lO9oSNkHrlIocyvRYw5UyGdu1nfEgQqP1OxipZ npbMwr42nnoY0s7/f5QJm6gXpb4q6uv7BzI10TYek1SqJl3nl8gZ0YErAQk2rhAZ L+Csrxux8KK3aGHLmnQDmnCht8RI3v94Hs1iTcGz9BnImBQyzFR9pLDMuQFjiuoV qRhjag1jjMmgrQZVtamjZdTMcBQkBRwIKG/6ZEQ66Gzlq4bzIQfDvvwahA2YUwB1 VAfm6a50ws6KUWbpUGVX =CJaS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W13hGx4HlAVGmuHcfja09MEPa2MncmuGa--