From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A07E51382C5 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7502E0D21; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (mail.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81C61E0CFD for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (dslb-088-073-063-205.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de [88.73.63.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: chithanh) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 26B3A335C49 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:12:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <20180211224234.GB6747@linux1.home> <20180212165506.GA23201@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <1f63e6de-999d-e0cd-990b-8813293357d6@gentoo.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ch=c3=ad-Thanh_Christopher_Nguy=e1=bb=85n?= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 22:12:32 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: b3e9e378-5cc2-4f52-b7ee-cdd39d60c4ef X-Archives-Hash: 505c9f504faf2ead8c60e999fc2dad18 Rich Freeman schrieb: >>>> Suppose that the council decides to accept an appeal from comrel. Is it >>>> a conflict of interest for a member of the council who is also a member >>>> of comrel to vote in the appeal? If it isn't, it is at least a pretty >>>> strong perception that it is. >>>> >>> Why? How? Exactly what sort of conflicting interest is supposed to be >>> present? >> >> I think in Comrel vs. Council is not a conflict of interest, but rather >> throwing the appeals process off balance. Can you expect someone to neutrally >> review material and actions (question the authenticity of evidence, identify >> potential misconduct, etc.) that they themselves used to build the case >> against the reprimanded? >> > > I hope that Comrel does not consider it their main duty to build cases > against community members. They're supposed to investigate, mediate, > and take action if necessary. They aren't prosecutors. (I'm taking this back to -project where it belongs) But typically only Comrel actions can be appealed. Investigations or mediation not. Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn