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From: NP-Hardass <NP-Hardass@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-08-14
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 14:55:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bea309c8-9460-525a-3bae-8262054fd17c@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45f646d7-9b7a-4fae-9180-0519d3fbb61f@gentoo.org>


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On 08/05/2016 02:45 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
> On 08/05/2016 08:42 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
>>>>>> Ultimately, I think we need some form of automated stabilization, e.g.
>>>>>> if a package version sits in ~ for 30 days and there are no blockers at
>>>>>> that point, the new version should go automatically to stable on all
>>>>>> architectures where there is a previous stable version.
>>>>
>>>> I LOUDLY disagree. The stable tree should not be compromised by such
>>>> automation, it is already bad enough without proper use-testing in some
>>>> cases. Stable isn't only about building properly.
>> and that's why we don't commit straight to stable. people are supposed
>> to be testing those ~arch versions for a while before they go stable.
>> That testing should cover the use cases you are talking about and work
>> out the bugs. Once that's done, we should be able to move the package to
>> stable.
> 
> It was recently a discussion in #-dev that could help on this, the
> automation can't be only build-testing, but if writing usage-tests
> (protocol, interface access testing etc for servers etc) automation
> would indeed be helpful.
> 

Isn't the src_test phase psuedo runtime testing?  I'm not sure that us
developing test suites for upstreams is a good use of our time.  I mean,
yes, it would improve the upstream projects where they accept it (which
is good for all), but I feel it detracts from what Gentoo developers are
doing (for Gentoo)

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NP-Hardass


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-05 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-04 14:15 [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-08-14 Kristian Fiskerstrand
2016-08-04 16:24 ` William Hubbs
2016-08-04 17:08   ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2016-08-04 17:09   ` Brian Dolbec
2016-08-04 18:31     ` William Hubbs
2016-08-04 20:12   ` Andrew Savchenko
2016-08-04 22:22     ` William Hubbs
2016-08-04 23:25       ` Rich Freeman
2016-08-05  2:26         ` William Hubbs
2016-08-05 10:57           ` Rich Freeman
2016-08-05 14:28             ` William Hubbs
2016-08-05 14:36               ` Rich Freeman
2016-08-05 15:36                 ` William Hubbs
2016-08-08 12:35                   ` Marek Szuba
2016-08-08 19:51                     ` Pacho Ramos
2016-08-09  2:07                     ` Jack Morgan
2016-08-09  5:32                       ` Kent Fredric
2016-08-09  5:59                         ` Rich Freeman
2016-08-09 10:05                           ` Kent Fredric
2016-08-09 14:41                             ` Brian Dolbec
2016-08-09 15:12                               ` Kent Fredric
2016-08-09 16:15                                 ` Brian Dolbec
2016-08-09 17:09                                   ` Kent Fredric
2016-08-09 17:12                                     ` Brian Evans
2016-08-09 17:18                                       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2016-08-09 17:22                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2016-08-09 20:08                                       ` Rich Freeman
2016-08-09 20:14                                         ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2016-08-09 20:20                                         ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2016-08-10  1:15                               ` Pallav Agarwal
2016-08-10  1:28                                 ` Brian Dolbec
2016-08-05 17:32         ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2016-08-05 17:29     ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2016-08-04 21:30   ` Daniel Campbell
2016-08-05 16:11   ` Michael Orlitzky
2016-08-05 16:22     ` [gentoo-project] " Michael Palimaka
2016-08-05 17:06       ` Michael Orlitzky
2016-08-05 17:11         ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2016-08-05 17:38           ` Michael Orlitzky
2016-08-05 17:19         ` Michał Górny
2016-08-05 17:21           ` Michael Orlitzky
2016-08-05 17:31   ` [gentoo-project] " Kristian Fiskerstrand
2016-08-05 18:42     ` William Hubbs
2016-08-05 18:45       ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2016-08-05 18:55         ` NP-Hardass [this message]
2016-08-05 19:03           ` Kristian Fiskerstrand

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