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[65.0.93.226]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h14sm710412ywa.0.2017.05.17.03.32.47 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 17 May 2017 03:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Fw: Your temporary 2 week suspension on interacting on the Gentoo Github page To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <5bfb9e32-632d-7dd1-6b8d-fd937660647d@gentoo.org> <243f75c5-90a8-1465-1f5d-f597be382170@gmail.com> <96c44e38-5e93-28bd-7d6f-93c733a9bd32@gmail.com> <1495003130.1804.2.camel@gentoo.org> <75e088b8-58f7-981f-6340-8cb7ca28066d@gmail.com> <20170517211921.6e6a6100@katipo2.lan> <536a7261-8161-9319-68a8-d347dddfcdc1@gmail.com> <20170517215618.4b607914@katipo2.lan> From: Dale Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 05:32:47 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170517215618.4b607914@katipo2.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 46275a06-6630-464f-b6da-ac8f972cb2cf X-Archives-Hash: 427d6042687f5d9fa597c05beae8bd6e Kent Fredric wrote: > On Wed, 17 May 2017 04:43:26 -0500 > Dale wrote: > >> First thing tho, some need to stop >> ignoring the problem. > Its not always ignoring problems, sometimes its just that we have full > plates and there's an endless river of things that need doing, and not > enough of us. > > There's a whole lot of stuff I've been neglecting for the last week > just because I'm exhausted and need a break, that's why I'm here > responding instead: Its less energy consuming. > > I'll get back into it eventually though. > > But this is why I'm trying to remain terse and keep things headed in > the right direction. I see the point but to get more people involved, Gentoo needs to do some things different or better. Otherwise, the complaint will always be that there is not enough manpower to get things done because few are joining because so many things are behind. One feeds on the other. Something needs to change to help break that cycle. Unless I missed it or they are no longer announcing new devs, the last I see joining was in Oct of last year. That's a good bit of time. I hope I either missed it or they just haven't announced them recently. What would be nice, figure out a way to improve things and then get to a point where Gentoo picks only the top people wanting to join because there are more wanting to join than is even needed. That is a lot better problem to deal with than not having enough to get the work done and no one or very few joining. I would guess that if Gentoo had twice the devs it has now, some could at least take a breath on occasion and not feel they are holding anything back. Still, things that recently happened needs to be dealt with so they don't happen again. No one may never know what that person we know about could have become. Sadly, that is likely one that is gone for good or at least a long time. Bigger question, how many more is there like that? Dale :-) :-)