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[65.0.121.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g133sm2279582ywe.19.2017.01.16.10.13.19 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Jan 2017 10:13:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Formally have Council oversee the Foundation 2.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <1604622.bZRWYHrp25@pinacolada> From: Dale Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:13:18 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d6e9f8d3-9a1f-4cc4-b4e4-8f1adb447ddb X-Archives-Hash: 9e71e5262e7a51a43bc6a5a30e10add0 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:35 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. > wrote: >> On Monday, January 16, 2017 11:56:43 AM EST Rich Freeman wrote: >>> And nobody really has a choice about whether they'll handle lawsuits. >>> If you own property, then you better have a plan for handling >>> lawsuits. I suspect that SPI has thought this through a bit more than >>> we have historically. >> The SPI is not a legal management entity. You are confusing fiscal with legal. >> > Again, I think you're thinking I'm saying I'm not. > > I'm not saying that the Gentoo Foundation should retain the legal > services of SPI. I'm saying that they should turn over their property > to SPI and cease to exist. At that point we don't need legal > services, because we legally don't exist. I have been looking at the SPI website, other than managing money and controlling assets, SPI does not appear to do anything else management wise. Do you have a link to the SPI website that says it does what you claim? >>> In any case, the point is that if Gentoo moves under SPI then there >>> would be no "Gentoo" to sue. "Gentoo" would be a trademark of SPI. >>> Any copyrights on our works that are held centrally would belong to >>> SPI. Our money would be stored in SPI bank accounts. So, if you want >>> our stuff, you have to sue SPI. >> Completely WRONG! >> >> "Project Independence >> SPI does not own, govern or control the associated projects." >> http://www.spi-inc.org/projects/relationship/ > They wouldn't own the project. They would own our assets. They > wouldn't control anything. > They would own the assets but I have found nothing that says Gentoo can't be sued still or that SPI would provide a defense for Gentoo. The only case I can think of, if the IRS comes after Gentoo and SPI is handling the money and paperwork. Then SPI would step in. I'd be interested in a link that shows what you claim. I can't find it and neither has my google searches. Dale :-) :-)