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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Formally have Council oversee the Foundation 2.0
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:13:18 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b135be8b-de54-7dec-f405-33ab674c7d86@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_=RzuzUbO2XTghKWpNdijCLwPAFjcanTKbZx0+XhGFDUA@mail.gmail.com>

Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:35 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
> <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, January 16, 2017 11:56:43 AM EST Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> And nobody really has a choice about whether they'll handle lawsuits.
>>> If you own property, then you better have a plan for handling
>>> lawsuits.  I suspect that SPI has thought this through a bit more than
>>> we have historically.
>> The SPI is not a legal management entity. You are confusing fiscal with legal.
>>
> Again, I think you're thinking I'm saying I'm not.
>
> I'm not saying that the Gentoo Foundation should retain the legal
> services of SPI.  I'm saying that they should turn over their property
> to SPI and cease to exist.  At that point we don't need legal
> services, because we legally don't exist.


I have been looking at the SPI website, other than managing money and
controlling assets, SPI does not appear to do anything else management
wise.  Do you have a link to the SPI website that says it does what you
claim? 

>>> In any case, the point is that if Gentoo moves under SPI then there
>>> would be no "Gentoo" to sue.  "Gentoo" would be a trademark of SPI.
>>> Any copyrights on our works that are held centrally would belong to
>>> SPI.  Our money would be stored in SPI bank accounts.  So, if you want
>>> our stuff, you have to sue SPI.
>> Completely WRONG!
>>
>> "Project Independence
>> SPI does not own, govern or control the associated projects."
>> http://www.spi-inc.org/projects/relationship/
> They wouldn't own the project.  They would own our assets.  They
> wouldn't control anything.
>

They would own the assets but I have found nothing that says Gentoo
can't be sued still or that SPI would provide a defense for Gentoo.  The
only case I can think of, if the IRS comes after Gentoo and SPI is
handling the money and paperwork.  Then SPI would step in. 

I'd be interested in a link that shows what you claim.  I can't find it
and neither has my google searches. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-16 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-14 21:43 [gentoo-project] Formally have Council oversee the Foundation 2.0 Andreas K. Huettel
2017-01-14 23:03 ` Matthew Thode
2017-01-14 23:08   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-01-14 23:19     ` Matthew Thode
2017-01-14 23:22       ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-01-14 23:25         ` Matthew Thode
2017-01-15 20:26     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-15  1:16   ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-15 20:28     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-15 21:00       ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-15 22:23         ` Raymond Jennings
2017-01-16  1:01           ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-16 14:56             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-15 20:31     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-15 20:59       ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-16 14:52         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-16 15:06           ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-16 16:31             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-16 16:56               ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-16 17:35                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-16 17:59                   ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-16 18:08                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-16 18:23                       ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-16 19:10                         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-16 18:13                     ` Dale [this message]
2017-01-16 18:19                       ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-16 18:25                         ` Alec Warner
2017-01-16 18:46                           ` Dale
2017-01-16 18:58                             ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-16 19:13                               ` Dale
2017-01-16 18:46                           ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-16 18:52                             ` Alec Warner
2017-01-16 19:08                               ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-16 19:20                                 ` Dale
2017-01-16 19:34                                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-16 19:54                                     ` Dale
2017-01-16 20:11                                       ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-16 20:31                                         ` Dale
2017-01-16 20:40                                           ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-16 20:47                                             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-16 20:57                                             ` Dale
2017-01-16 20:27                                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-16 20:38                                         ` Dale
2017-01-16 20:51                                           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-16 21:09                                           ` Roy Bamford
2017-01-16 19:31                                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-16 19:20                             ` Dale
2017-01-16 18:43                         ` Dale
2017-01-16 18:52                           ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-16 19:21                             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-16 19:19                         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-16 17:50               ` Alec Warner
2017-01-16 18:01                 ` Rich Freeman
2017-01-16 18:02                   ` Alec Warner
2017-01-16 18:10                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-16 20:16                     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2017-01-16 20:23                       ` M. J. Everitt
2017-01-16 20:27                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-01-16 20:42                           ` Dale
2017-01-16 21:41                             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-16 21:37                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-01-16 18:40                   ` Matthew Thode
2017-01-16 18:49                     ` Dale
2017-01-15 15:00 ` Roy Bamford
2017-01-15 15:30   ` Rich Freeman

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