From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-project+bounces-6440-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AC21139085 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 895D9E0FAD; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.obsidian-studios.com (mail2.obsidian-studios.com [45.79.71.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A373E0F89 for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:45:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20771 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2017 15:45:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO assp2.obsidian-studios.com) (wlt@::ffff:127.0.0.1) by ::ffff:127.0.0.1 with ESMTPA; 26 Jan 2017 15:45:51 -0000 X-Assp-Version: 2.5.3(16294) on assp2.obsidian-studios.com X-Assp-ID: assp2.obsidian-studios.com m1-45551-11875 X-Assp-Session: 378197C1F28 (mail 1) X-Assp-Envelope-From: wlt-ml@o-sinc.com X-Assp-Intended-For: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Assp-Server-TLS: yes Received: from unknown ([fdbe:bad:a55:0:1::211] helo=wlt.localnet) by assp2.obsidian-studios.com with SMTPSA(TLSv1_2 ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256) (2.5.3); 26 Jan 2017 07:45:50 -0800 From: "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com> To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] RFC: GLEP - Require Projects to report to Council Monthly Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 10:45:50 -0500 Message-ID: <assp.0199279963.13174044.AnB05Y1xCq@wlt> Organization: Obsidian-Studios, Inc. In-Reply-To: <20170126145712.3acefb7c@katipo2.lan> References: <assp.019211b0b1.1683986.sz8zTcAYcg@wlt> <assp.0194ded782.5184158.LL5x5SYOlM@wlt> <20170126145712.3acefb7c@katipo2.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-project+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list <gentoo-project.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5719871.lQV7t8bTed"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 72d2779b-c316-4e86-bbd9-52ed31827ac8 X-Archives-Hash: a6ec33f586e512673b79c55e1573402b --nextPart5719871.lQV7t8bTed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:57:12 PM EST Kent Fredric wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 12:03:02 -0500 > > "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com> wrote: > > Yes because there is a horrible atmosphere and attitude around Gentoo > > these > > days. I am not of that mindset or perspective. I never have been. > > That may be how you see it. No that is fact, given how people keep discussing and focusing on punishment. It clearly shows a mindset and the atmosphere. Not a friendly one! > But for me, I don't really have that problem in general, and I only seem to > bump into it when dealing with these horrible mailinglists of rivers of > emails that never end, when I'd rather STFU&WSC Please I tend to be more active than most speaking https://github.com/wltjr > And for me, it very much *is* what you're writing that gives me these vibes. You do not know me, and you are reading things I did not write. Worrying about things I am not even discussing. None of that comes from me.... > I don't pretend to be able to explain how that is, but it is true. > > I don't know how to resolve it either, but I'm just generally trying to > think to myself "Should I actually respond, or should I just shut my mouth > and do something else lest I make this fire worse" I see allot of people talking who became developers years after I was one. I do not see any respect for those that came before. No respect for wisdom gained over a decade, etc. I routinely will google Gentoo New Developer, with a persons name. Rarely am I talking to anyone from say before 2010. Most have become developers since and have a very different perspective. -- William L. Thomson Jr. --nextPart5719871.lQV7t8bTed Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQTEeldqZjmVut8bVHJNcbKkg6ozUAUCWIoZrgAKCRBNcbKkg6oz UO3uAJ0fdrDGROQZ79jnqOSdfMKOLWn/YQCffHxKrk3673WU9+wJ+barZUwlZ9Q= =MUW+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5719871.lQV7t8bTed--