From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1EA7139085 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CE0A21C102; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.obsidian-studios.com (mail.obsidian-studios.com [173.230.135.215]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EBA021C0F9 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13528 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2017 17:52:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO assp1.obsidian-studios.com) (wlt@::ffff:127.0.0.1) by ::ffff:127.0.0.1 with ESMTPA; 22 Jan 2017 17:52:00 -0000 X-Assp-Version: 2.5.3(16294) on assp1.obsidian-studios.com X-Assp-ID: assp1.obsidian-studios.com m1-07520-01939 X-Assp-Session: 32555633A88 (mail 1) X-Assp-Envelope-From: wlt-ml@o-sinc.com X-Assp-Intended-For: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Assp-Server-TLS: yes Received: from unknown ([fdbe:bad:a55:0:1::211] helo=wlt.localnet) by assp1.obsidian-studios.com with SMTPSA(TLSv1_2 ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256) (2.5.3); 22 Jan 2017 12:51:59 -0500 From: "William L. Thomson Jr." To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Rekindling Gentoo News -> Paying for news Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 12:51:56 -0500 Message-ID: Organization: Obsidian-Studios, Inc. In-Reply-To: <20170123064115.22479fa2@katipo2.lan> References: <20170123064115.22479fa2@katipo2.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart11425471.tN9yjVG5UX"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 88f87a6b-8d54-425b-a3fa-b15e17f787f9 X-Archives-Hash: baa9d72d1a63b415205ff5b2ccdb825b --nextPart11425471.tN9yjVG5UX Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Monday, January 23, 2017 6:41:15 AM EST Kent Fredric wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 12:21:04 -0500 > > "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > I used an example of Linode paying $100 for documentation. > > Ok. So, this is probably where we got derailed. > > Its not clear *who* is paying for *what*. Looks like Linode has increased to $250 from $100 https://www.linode.com/docs/linode-writers-guide/ > The outlay gave the impression that it was creating an LWN-esque > newsletter, which would take income from subscribers who read it. No, nothing to do with readers. This is about authors. Paying authors. > Whereas that suggest there is no such association, and the only changing > hands of money is "somebody" pays an author to write the article, which > everyone else then receives for free. Yes that is the idea. Gentoo pays people for content for the GWN. Along with editors to put it all together. > And the only source of income is the people requesting articles. Income is normal foundation. This would come from Foundation funds, how ever they were gathered. > You've covered the "" -> "" > part of the dynamic, but where the money comes from to make this happen, > and the scheme under which the money is obtained is not entirely clear. The Foundation has money now. It rarely spends it, thus people rarely donate. > Looking back I can see now you didn't write that as such, its just how the > framing turned out: > > "Paying for news" -> "who pays for news"? -> "subscribers pay for news" People always twist and read what I write in their own ways. We all have filters we view the world through. > In short though: Depsite how much you write, I seldom find you "clear" to > read. Could be culture differences, maybe even language. Even native English varies around the world. -- William L. Thomson Jr. --nextPart11425471.tN9yjVG5UX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQTEeldqZjmVut8bVHJNcbKkg6ozUAUCWITxPAAKCRBNcbKkg6oz UJA5AJ977zdtYUW0Wde2GU4pdOdydZ9wUQCfZBUM0yo11L2Tvdc2pKxGdQFYGMw= =L6WE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart11425471.tN9yjVG5UX--