Re: [gentoo-project] ComRel / disciplinary action reform proposal

["William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com>]

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On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 2:05:54 PM EST Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 1:31 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
> 
> <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com> wrote:
> > It is really amazing what is tolerated, and what is considered a CoC
> > violation.
> Keep in mind that "tolerated" and "CoC violation" are different
> things. 

Where does set an example for others to follow fall?

> Something can be a CoC violation and be either tolerated or
> not.  There are a lot of things I'd prefer not be tolerated which are,
> and a lot of it comes down to trying to find a balance in enforcement.

Or just get rid of enforcement as it is very unfair and biased.

> The stuff that does get serious enforcement tends to be fairly
> egregious from what I've seen, and rarely are all the details of what
> actually happened the things that discussed on the lists or the things
> that are commonly known.

That is complete BS. I have never done anything severe. Go try to find evidence 
of such. I can show you countless examples of clear CoC violations. I have 
mentioned many on list. Yet I was banned recent in 2016 for 7 days.

None of this makes any logical sense. The criteria is not consistent. 
Application and enforcement is not consistent. The whole thing is a mess.

> Put another way, from what I've observed Comrel is about as
> understaffed as any other part of Gentoo, so for them to go through
> all the trouble to actually do something to somebody, they really have
> to get their attention in a sustained way...

Or simply not be liked by those with such powers. I have seen others, which a 
recent post was a perfect example of a clear CoC violation. Not to mention 
creating a toxic community that is very unfriendly. While minor things get 
punished.

I have never insulted someone on list. I have never talked about anyone who 
was banned on list. I have not used fowl language in IRC and other things. Yet 
I am not right for Gentoo yet people who do such are?

These other people who are "right" for Gentoo, have horrible attitudes, 
approaches to other people, and are creating a really bad atmosphere. It is of 
no wonder people are not coming to Gentoo.

I very much believe I am not the problem but many who are Developers are the 
problem. Their attitudes and how they interact with others needs to change. In 
order for more to be attracted to the project. This is simple logic.

No one wants to be around or work with unfriendly rude insulting people.
I am not one of those.... Explains why I am not right but others are. Makes 
allot of sense.
 
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William L. Thomson Jr.

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