From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB8D6139085 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 162A823406A; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:31:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.obsidian-studios.com (mail.obsidian-studios.com [173.230.135.215]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDEC723403F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8403 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2017 16:31:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO assp1.obsidian-studios.com) (wlt@::ffff:127.0.0.1) by ::ffff:127.0.0.1 with ESMTPA; 16 Jan 2017 16:31:55 -0000 X-Assp-Version: 2.5.3(16294) on assp1.obsidian-studios.com X-Assp-ID: assp1.obsidian-studios.com m1-84315-01787 X-Assp-Session: 32555380FF0 (mail 1) X-Assp-Envelope-From: wlt-ml@o-sinc.com X-Assp-Intended-For: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Assp-Server-TLS: yes Received: from unknown ([fdbe:bad:a55:0:1::211] helo=wlt.localnet) by assp1.obsidian-studios.com with SMTPSA(TLSv1_2 ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256) (2.5.3); 16 Jan 2017 11:31:55 -0500 From: "William L. Thomson Jr." To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Formally have Council oversee the Foundation 2.0 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 11:31:51 -0500 Message-ID: Organization: Obsidian-Studios, Inc. User-Agent: KMail/5.3.3 (Linux/4.7.5-gentoo; KDE/5.28.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <1604622.bZRWYHrp25@pinacolada> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3044042.S1DVlzXmIu"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 9a345fef-0c9a-41f2-a321-ce5dbea21fa8 X-Archives-Hash: f19d7e16ee11f7242e1a8aaa6a0bf2cd --nextPart3044042.S1DVlzXmIu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Monday, January 16, 2017 10:06:09 AM EST Rich Freeman wrote: > > > The SPI provides legal assistance, it does not take over all legal matt= ers > > and also uses the SFLC. Gentoo may still need its own legal > > representation. Their legal assistance is also at their discretion, > > unlike other services. > If we moved to SPI we would dissolve the Foundation. There would be > no "Gentoo" to seek legal representation. Just because you go to the SPI does not mean Gentoo does not exist. If you = get=20 rid of the Foundation that is another matter. Some legal entity still has t= o=20 own that stuff. =20 > And since they're the ones who have to worry about getting sued, it > really shouldn't be a concern that legal assistance is at their > discretion. The onus would actually be on them to ensure that we're > not doing things that will get them sued, not the other way around. > Obviously we would be good tennents, and Gentoo generally tries to > follow the law anyway. Most of the areas we struggle are areas that > would go away under SPI. You have a misunderstanding of the SPI and you need to contact them to get= =20 more information. This is NOT how they work at all. They DO NOT provide leg= al=20 protection. The SPI does not simply handle any law suits! They are NOT a legal body. Th= ey=20 are financial, accountants, tax attorneys not legal ones. They use the SFLC= for=20 legal purposes. People seriously need to get more information. I spent considerable time on= =20 all this as a Trustee, contacting the SPI and SFLC. You all are just revisi= ng=20 things I have already and not listening. Do not take my word, go talk to the SPI. They have a IRC channel on oftc. =2D-=20 William L. Thomson Jr. --nextPart3044042.S1DVlzXmIu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQTEeldqZjmVut8bVHJNcbKkg6ozUAUCWHz1dwAKCRBNcbKkg6oz UFPfAJ4z9Dh252yO41i8iFiIyqEC7FdNHACcDHeUGjDXCWl3/gclEL2YIT0YG3I= =Tj92 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3044042.S1DVlzXmIu--