Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract

["Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <jmbsvicetto@gentoo.org>]

On Tue, 17 Feb 2015, Rich Freeman wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
> <jmbsvicetto@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Feb 2015, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> An area that always bothered me was stage3 building, but I think our
>>> catalyst docs have improved.  I don't know if following the wiki guide
>>> leads to a stage3 identical to our published one or not...
>>
>> Rich, please make an effort to ask the correct people before making such
>> comments that can be misread as meaning that the RelEng team is building
>> stages "in secret" or questioning how anyone can be certain about what is
>> built.
>
> The only comments I made were:
> 1.  IN THE PAST I was concerned about stage3 building.
> 2.  Things have improved.
> 3.  I am unsure if following the wiki guide leads to a stage3
> identical to our published one or not.
>
> All three remain just as true after your comments.  :)  I'm certainly
> interested in clarification on the last one.  It isn't actually enough
> to publish a repo full of files - you also have to document how you
> use them.  That may very well already be documented in the Catalyst
> wiki page.

I don't know what wiki page you are talking about, but to build stages 
based on the official specs and using the releng repo, one needs only to 
put the following into cron to build amd64 / x86:

/release/releng/tools/catalyst-auto -c 
/release/releng/tools/catalyst-auto-amd64.conf

/release/releng/tools/catalyst-auto -c 
/release/releng/tools/catalyst-auto-x86.conf

This will use the /release mountpoint to do the building and save of 
stages. Unless we've fixed it already (I don't think we did), that will 
fail loudly if it's a symlink - that's why I still have a local fork to 
build stages on my build server under /home/release. This is something we 
plan to make more flexible in the catalyst-3 rewrite.

> As far as "misreading" goes - people will read what they want to read
> into just about anything that anybody says.  I try to clearly state
> what I mean, and I'm sure I do it imperfectly.  If somebody isn't sure
> what I mean, they're more than welcome to talk to me about it.

I hope the above and the previous email helped address your concerns and 
cleared any doubts.

Regards,
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Gentoo Developer