From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50FD138A1A for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 06:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60A60E091F; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 06:37:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC3CBE0870 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 06:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix, from userid 2127) id 9D5A234085D; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 06:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C60234076B for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 06:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 06:37:46 +0000 (UTC) From: "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201502142148.30540.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <54E007A4.5050504@gentoo.org> <54E16381.8020409@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Archives-Salt: 0b7c9521-6614-49c5-9466-9fef93011218 X-Archives-Hash: 9b79553ace5271d86f8a658387e5de37 On Mon, 16 Feb 2015, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:26 PM, hasufell wrote: >> >> Scripts no one can read except the team (even after being asked to >> publish them) is by definition propriety software. It was used to >> develop and package emul-linux-x86-* packages until this very day. >> >> No one cared, at any time. I just find this a bit confusing, because of >> the sudden bikeshed about github which IS already widely used in gentoo >> (whether everyone likes it or not). > > I'm not sure how many people noticed - certainly nobody made a big > complaint about it. Now that you bring it up I agree that this should > be corrected, though at least in this case it is a bit of a moot point > as those packages are largely obsolete now. Some of the scripts used are hosted in several public repositories (like the qa-scripts). Almost all of the others are part of the infra configuration repositories. We've shared some of the scripts already and I'm sure all of us would prefer to share all the others - we just need to go over them and make sure we split any authentication out of them. > An area that always bothered me was stage3 building, but I think our > catalyst docs have improved. I don't know if following the wiki guide > leads to a stage3 identical to our published one or not, but if not > that would be an example of a similar situation that should be fixed. Rich, please make an effort to ask the correct people before making such comments that can be misread as meaning that the RelEng team is building stages "in secret" or questioning how anyone can be certain about what is built. Both the catalyst repository[1] containing catalyst code and the releng repository[2] containing both the official stages and helper scripts used for stage building are available through gogo. [1] - git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/catalyst.git [2] - git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/releng.git Regards, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto Gentoo Developer