Hi, On 2019-06-16 20:09, Michał Górny wrote: > Some developers were recently complaining that we're turning Gentoo into > a hobbyist distro and that's apparently bad. > > Do you think Gentoo should allow for experimental and unstable features, > and possibly breaking changes that make Gentoo more interesting for > hobbyists? Or should we block breaking changes and become more > conservative for users who prefer stable distribution with minimal > maintenance burden? I am not sure if I fully get the point. Gentoo should never break. If we know something doesn't work yet, it shouldn't reach users (i.e. the breaking change should be masked, opt-in only...). If this is about 17.1 profile: Sure, at some point, when things are stable and working as intended so that they are ready for most users, they could still 'break' things and require user interaction (like a migration). Saying "we never do something like that" would be wrong from my P.O.V. because this would block any possible improvement in general. The important thing is that we as Gentoo agree on that change. I.e. no single person/project should be allowed to force such a change. If a single person/project want to introduce a breaking change, change must be proposed, explained and discussed. If this change will make sense for most Gentoo developers, we will find ways to make that change like in the past -- together. -- Regards, Thomas Deutschmann / Gentoo Linux Developer C4DD 695F A713 8F24 2AA1 5638 5849 7EE5 1D5D 74A5