From: Thomas Deutschmann <whissi@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo as hobbyist distro
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 00:39:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a950d45b-09bd-dd57-f77f-3e68c4671849@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b7200fbcc9f0f34df3e4c10e254fd9c4e3806d5e.camel@gentoo.org>
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Hi,
On 2019-06-16 20:09, Michał Górny wrote:
> Some developers were recently complaining that we're turning Gentoo into
> a hobbyist distro and that's apparently bad.
>
> Do you think Gentoo should allow for experimental and unstable features,
> and possibly breaking changes that make Gentoo more interesting for
> hobbyists? Or should we block breaking changes and become more
> conservative for users who prefer stable distribution with minimal
> maintenance burden?
I am not sure if I fully get the point.
Gentoo should never break. If we know something doesn't work yet, it
shouldn't reach users (i.e. the breaking change should be masked, opt-in
only...).
If this is about 17.1 profile: Sure, at some point, when things are
stable and working as intended so that they are ready for most users,
they could still 'break' things and require user interaction (like a
migration).
Saying "we never do something like that" would be wrong from my P.O.V.
because this would block any possible improvement in general.
The important thing is that we as Gentoo agree on that change. I.e. no
single person/project should be allowed to force such a change. If a
single person/project want to introduce a breaking change, change must
be proposed, explained and discussed. If this change will make sense for
most Gentoo developers, we will find ways to make that change like in
the past -- together.
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Regards,
Thomas Deutschmann / Gentoo Linux Developer
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2019-06-15 9:42 [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15 9:49 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: GLEP 76 Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15 10:20 ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-06-15 16:17 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-16 22:01 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-18 14:12 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-18 15:43 ` Luca Barbato
2019-06-18 15:47 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-24 22:18 ` Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-25 6:15 ` Michał Górny
2019-06-28 11:49 ` Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-28 12:09 ` Rich Freeman
2019-06-28 17:51 ` Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-30 4:48 ` desultory
2019-06-30 18:53 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-01 5:02 ` desultory
2019-07-01 11:59 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-02 4:24 ` desultory
2019-07-02 11:57 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 4:31 ` desultory
2019-07-03 11:13 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-04 4:32 ` desultory
2019-06-30 7:11 ` Patrick Lauer
2019-06-30 7:42 ` Michał Górny
2019-06-30 8:03 ` Patrick Lauer
2019-06-30 22:27 ` Robin H. Johnson
2019-07-01 1:31 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-15 10:00 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Power balance Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15 10:34 ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-06-15 21:25 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-16 7:31 ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-16 15:56 ` Roy Bamford
2019-06-16 22:18 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-17 1:38 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-18 14:41 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-30 7:26 ` Patrick Lauer
2019-06-15 10:24 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Bringing new people Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15 16:24 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-15 21:23 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-16 18:51 ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-16 22:21 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-19 2:39 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-16 18:09 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo as hobbyist distro Michał Górny
2019-06-16 19:13 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-16 22:39 ` Thomas Deutschmann [this message]
2019-06-19 6:24 ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-19 15:45 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-21 14:55 ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-19 14:32 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-20 14:48 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-21 13:21 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: your achievements Michał Górny
2019-06-21 20:46 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-21 22:59 ` Georgy Yakovlev
2019-06-22 6:44 ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-06-22 7:06 ` Michał Górny
2019-06-22 22:57 ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-24 11:05 ` Mart Raudsepp
2019-06-24 11:25 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: traits of a good Council member Michał Górny
2019-06-24 23:23 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation Robin H. Johnson
2019-06-26 19:45 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-26 21:54 ` Matthew Thode
2019-06-26 22:03 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-26 22:06 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-26 22:13 ` Matthew Thode
2019-06-26 22:28 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-30 19:21 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-26 22:08 ` Matthew Thode
2019-06-26 22:15 ` Michael Everitt
2019-06-26 22:22 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-28 23:49 ` Andreas K. Huettel
[not found] ` <20190630215422.GA22747@bubba.lan>
2019-06-30 21:55 ` Aaron Bauman
2019-07-01 7:50 ` Michał Górny
2019-07-01 9:31 ` Roy Bamford
2019-07-01 9:52 ` Michał Górny
2019-07-01 10:02 ` Michael Everitt
2019-07-01 10:04 ` Michael Everitt
2019-07-01 19:42 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-01 19:44 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-01 20:10 ` Alec Warner
2019-07-01 21:14 ` Roy Bamford
2019-07-02 12:40 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-01 11:26 ` Roy Bamford
2019-07-01 12:07 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-01 19:34 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-03 4:42 ` desultory
2019-07-03 6:12 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation - Treasurer Response! Robin H. Johnson
2019-07-03 9:51 ` Michael Everitt
2019-07-03 10:47 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 11:05 ` Michael Everitt
2019-07-03 11:22 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 11:27 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-03 12:27 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 13:45 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-03 12:56 ` [gentoo-nfp] " Michał Górny
2019-07-03 13:08 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 13:17 ` Michał Górny
[not found] ` <20190703143429.yfieiru7cyykr5ca@gentoo.org>
[not found] ` <6b84c0a026551472a05e776921182ba8dae6fb1e.camel@gentoo.org>
[not found] ` <138757e484f751d567fb2702ce27de3e3e215a15.camel@gentoo.org>
2019-07-04 2:05 ` [gentoo-nfp] Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation - Treasurer Response! (part 2) Robin H. Johnson
2019-06-30 10:36 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees Roy Bamford
2019-06-30 16:48 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-30 20:17 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-04 2:14 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Council demands on maintainers & council legal liability Robin H. Johnson
2019-07-04 6:26 ` Michał Górny
2019-07-04 8:03 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-04 20:33 ` Alec Warner
2019-07-04 23:46 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-06 2:54 ` desultory
2019-07-04 13:36 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-07-04 16:37 ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-07-04 18:49 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-07-04 19:22 ` Ulrich Mueller
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