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Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <23370.17208.982969.276544@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="83Fmhj3Jr8f2OZ6gt1lUvVax3CRfK39GN" X-Archives-Salt: 0877f40e-d610-4eb4-b700-be16e0fac9b4 X-Archives-Hash: fd06589b97e2d53162b23342f4dceec5 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --83Fmhj3Jr8f2OZ6gt1lUvVax3CRfK39GN Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="FFHrpxRUvaWuKoabEXSfV4GRrgq82UmmD"; protected-headers="v1" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Manuel_R=c3=bcger?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29 References: <23368.25818.481969.336756@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <991e5485-52a9-2065-9f93-ae9c4b9e7f1f@gentoo.org> <20180714173301.GA3639@linux1.home> <1640a518-dc3d-293f-8f5d-0915eca602d0@gentoo.org> <23370.17208.982969.276544@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> In-Reply-To: <23370.17208.982969.276544@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> --FFHrpxRUvaWuKoabEXSfV4GRrgq82UmmD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14.07.2018 20:38, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2018, Manuel R=FCger wrote: >=20 >> On 14.07.2018 19:33, William Hubbs wrote: >>> I'm not sure this is an agenda item since there is really nothing >>> for us to do for it in a meeting; [...] >=20 >> In my opinion there is still a difference between implicit and >> explicit agreement to a CoC, as explicit agreeement makes knowledge >> about the CoC undeniable. >=20 > I agree with William here. >=20 > If this is addressed at the council, then the council has explicitly > approved the CoC in its 2007-03-15 meeting [1]. Usually we don't > reiterate past decisions for the sole purpose of confirming them. > I also think there is no doubt that the CoC is in force. >=20 > However, if your request is addressed at council members as > individuals, then it is not an agenda item. (Of course, council > members can still make a statement as requested.) >=20 > Ulrich >=20 > [1] https://projects.gentoo.org/council/meeting-logs/20070315.txt >=20 Okay understood. Would that be a better fit for the council meeting then?= Have the council vote the following items: a) Make explicit agreement with CoC mandatory for being part (i.e. also existing members) of Comrel, Infra, Recruiters and QA. b) In concordance with a) make explicit agreement an (unenforced) part of the first Council meeting. Agreements will be tracked in a bug per project by the individual project members. For a) project leads have to ensure that this happens. 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