From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6B89158094 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 19:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E10F7E0F94; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 19:56:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E8BEE0F94 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 19:56:30 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2022 14:56:27 -0500 From: John Helmert III To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: github's copilot feature Message-ID: References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="28U5vLwAg+XEoMHD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Archives-Salt: 0b5c1c17-34d9-449d-a7b6-c51601b91482 X-Archives-Hash: 952432c41e7dbf906d47d56fbbaeec11 --28U5vLwAg+XEoMHD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 06:35:32PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 5:43 PM William Hubbs wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 04:33:43PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > > > > > > I just found out while I was on vacation about Github's copilot featu= re. > > > > > > > It looks like the SFC is urging foss developers to ditch github over > > this. > > >=20 > I get the sentiment, but I don't see what direct impact it will have. > If Gentoo stops using Github all our code will inevitably still be on > there and will still end up being used to train copilot. Inevitably? If most of our activity moves somewhere else, I don't see why we couldn't blow away all of https://github.com/gentoo. > I'm not sure how strong the copyright argument even is. Your own > brain is a neural network that has been trained on copyrighted > textbooks, lectures, code from every employer you ever worked at, and > so on. Human beings don't even have the ability to avoid learning > from things they are exposed to; it is a completely involuntary > process. >=20 > In any case, it seems like the general preference has been to move > towards something else anyway, so it seems a bit of a moot point. > Most already want to move something else, and after we move basically > everything we have ever done and will ever do will still end up > embedded in the mind of copilot anyway. >=20 > --=20 > Rich >=20 --28U5vLwAg+XEoMHD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQQyG9yfCrmO0LPSdG2gXq2+aa/JtQUCYtMX6QAKCRCgXq2+aa/J tZXyAQCyuRAOa9z+OS9+PLh4MvqzV/DsQmYDyK7jVwD8wnOGCwEArAJY/50HhVce 7uqSy+bg13yDmNJvsKE8y+Y8i3J8+gs= =yL0E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --28U5vLwAg+XEoMHD--