From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A87401382C5 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2020 13:02:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65645E085B; Tue, 8 Dec 2020 13:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost01b.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01b.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.1.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37D06E085A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2020 13:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [62.3.120.142] (helo=NeddySeagoon_Static) by smarthost01b.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1kmcdb-0005o0-Kt for gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 13:02:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 13:02:09 +0000 From: Roy Bamford Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1938886.YKUYFuaPT4@tuxbrain> X-Mailer: Balsa 2.6.1 Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-teyWtSmiKiGgswsfNhy4" X-Originating-smarthost01b-IP: [62.3.120.142] Feedback-ID: 62.3.120.142 X-Archives-Salt: abac10d2-4579-4d50-bd95-754e5664c413 X-Archives-Hash: 5f3bf7102aa42c4144a1f0fde663a29e --=-teyWtSmiKiGgswsfNhy4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2020.12.08 12:34, Andreas Sturmlechner wrote: > On Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2020 12:46:16 CET Roy Bamford wrote: > > There is a well used reporting and escalation and appeal process in > place. > > It was not used. > > Every post contains a 'Report' button. There were no reports. > > The forum mods have an email alias that could have been used to > report > > posts and wider issues. That didn't happen either. >=20 > You're suggesting to report each burning tree separately in a forest > fire=20 > before the fighters can move in. Personally I've lost any trust in the > process=20 > when it comes to OTW a long time ago. You can continue to insist on > 'the=20 > process' and weirdly cite decades obsolete email etiquette, > unfortunately it=20 > just seems you want to avoid giving us your take on the current state > of=20 > affairs with OTW, in which I understand you feel much less at home > than the=20 > Forums lead anyway. >=20 > Regards >=20 I think that you have missed the main point I was trying to make. The problem is the council destroying their own credibility.=20 It just happens that the vehicle of choice is the forums OTW but it could hove been anything. Using the same process as the appeal to close OTW we should disband comrel, since everyone will go straight to council anyway. Its a dangerous precedent to set process does not matter, or worse, applies to some people and not others. =20 --=20 Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods arm64 --=-teyWtSmiKiGgswsfNhy4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCAAdFiEEsOrcx0gZrrCMwJzo/xJODTqpeT4FAl/PeVEACgkQ/xJODTqp eT4p2gf+PW46ZqDf5H5gR5fD0V/IkliVX/Ym+yx0y8Z/KmBAfjhsSJIYKAXXsH8x aimOZLg6NHhQXj7XXHnOVFgkQCERYTo8psQO52+FGrWSNMSlNsuHg9Xjyo+BlYYR cpuHevqIfZ+T1Ngs7R86G3stt3NwgZ9Xh1B5gVonEIakuNGj2NOOXXsCCLrAKR3P PKTaY69VLrUXJjzRsNjWK3wOrv9VgEMdAr8HyAS1ZrU+UbV/qDwGBOVwsltgyv/e JzYn2QCgbN3wcbu9AAhKXGj6HZgpcWWs7iFzL6WjBxsBr8GBXNnxqec92aIZ8ozy Q+y7yF2qgiEy742FPHZ8f+erkd5PNg== =ryWk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-teyWtSmiKiGgswsfNhy4--