On 2019.07.01 10:52, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Mon, 2019-07-01 at 10:31 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
> > On 2019.07.01 08:50, Michał Górny wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2019-06-30 at 17:55 -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 05:54:35PM -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 01:49:58AM +0200, Andreas K. Huettel
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Isn't it about time we quit pinning the mistakes of the
> past
> > > on the
> > > > > > > officers of the present? 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Well, yes. Though, we tried something in the past, it didnt
> > > work, we should do 
> > > > > > it different in the future.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > From what I understand, the present and recent
> > > > > > > officers have made extraordinary efforts to rectify the
> > > shortcomings of
> > > > > > > previous trustees
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > And that's great. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But are you sure that we should require continuous
> > > "extraordinary efforts" 
> > > > > > from trustees in the future, just to keep things running?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > FWIW, I endorse antarus / Alec for trustee. :)
> > > > 
> > > > No, once fixed, the books will likely be continued to be done by
> a
> > > full time CPA.
> > > 
> > > Wouldn't a dedicated 'full time CPA' be more expensive than an
> > > umbrella
> > > that has a financial team for multiple projects?
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Best regards,
> > > Michał Górny
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Ah, the nuances of the English language used between two non 
> > native spears. 
> > 
> > A 'full time CPA' means that the person does that sort of work full
> > time. It does not mean that he or she works full time for any one
> > client. 
> > 
> 
> Yes, I understand that.  However, I still believe that a contract
> initiated between CPA and a single small-ish entity such a Gentoo
> involves more costs than fees taken by umbrella dedicated to multiple
> entities.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Nobody knows yet. Different umbrellas work differently. Different CPAs
charge differently and perform different scopes of work.
The Foundation will need to perform a value judgement based on 
quotations not beliefs.

Its not all for the Foundation to decide. We have to find an umbrella to 
have us before dissolving the Foundation is even an option.

> 
> While I can agree that we need to pay more at the moment due to past
> issues, I also believe that we owe it to our donors that we try not to
> spend most of their money on unnecessary bureaucracy (read: keeping
> a dedicated Foundation if there's an alternative that works for
> Gentoo).

Yes. That's what due diligence is partly about, ensuring the Foundation 
gets value for money. 
 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Michał Górny
> 
> 

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