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From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:19:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <K6ZGTS4R.YHBCSFU7.7XF44JMN@HG4K3Y2C.MWK426JD.GY73KVVR> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F0B70B3E-AB7C-4414-9B85-9176467ACE26@gentoo.org>

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On 2020.12.12 14:47, Aaron Bauman wrote:
> 
> 
> On December 12, 2020 8:24:44 AM EST, Roy Bamford
> <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >On 2020.12.12 12:07, Andreas K. Hüttel wrote:
> >> > I have a major concern with the concept of the council
> >> > deciding to close any part of the forum. Its like this ...
> >> > At present, Gentoo is a common carrier, like the mail.
> >> > The content of letters and parcels is of little concern to the
> >> > carrier.
> >> > 
> >> > Gentoos status could be changed by a council decision to
> >> > close any part of the forum from common carrier to publisher,
> >> > were the council seen to be exercising editorial control.
> >> > Being a publisher makes Gentoo liable for the published
> >> > content. Gentoo could not run the forums at all under those
> >> > conditions.
> >> 
> >> This is misinformation at best, and deliberate confusion sowing at
> >> worst. 
> >> 
> >> I assume that you're talking about the US legal situation. [#]
> >> 
> >
> ><snip totally irrelevant material>
> >
> >> [...]
> >> ====================
> >> https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230
> >> 
> >> Cheers.
> >> 
> >> 
> >>
> > 
> ><snip references>
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Andreas K. Hüttel
> >> dilfridge@gentoo.org
> >> Gentoo Linux developer 
> >> (council, qa, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice)
> >
> >
> >Rule 1 is never assume.
> >That makes the rest of your post irrelevant. 
> >
> >In the UK, which selfishly, is all that matters to me, if I compile 
> >and edit a community newsletter, I'm the publisher, with all the
> >liabilities 
> >of a publisher. Like, say, the News of the World. I have editorial 
> >control and am liable for the content.
> >
> >When someone distributes that same newsletter by putting it
> >through the village letterboxes, they have no liability for the
> >content.
> >
> >In the same vein, is the council accidentality, through ignorance or
> >otherwise, in danger of making Gentoo a publisher, with all the 
> >attached liability for content?
> >
> >I don't know the answer either.   
> >
> >Oh, the  News of the World folded after a lawsuit related to an
> >article it published.
> 
> This doesn't correlate. The problem is and has been, the content is
> not aligned with our community values and standards. 
> 
> Simple enough. No need for legal shenanigans, liability, etc. 
> 
> -- 
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> 
> 
> 

0/20 for answering a question I didn't ask and not addressing the 
one I did.

Care to try addressing the liability question?
I don't care about the US or from 1-Jan-21, the EU. 

I'm in the UK so that's the jurisdiction that applies to me.
 
-- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(Neddyseagoon) a member of
elections
gentoo-ops
forum-mods
arm64

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-12-13  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-30 16:46 [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Coucil meeting 2020-12-13 Georgy Yakovlev
2020-12-01  3:15 ` Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Andreas K. Hüttel
2020-12-01  6:07   ` Alec Warner
2020-12-01  6:30     ` Alec Warner
2020-12-01 15:10       ` Aaron Bauman
2020-12-01 14:58     ` Aaron Bauman
2020-12-01 16:16       ` Alec Warner
2020-12-01 17:31         ` Aaron Bauman
2020-12-04  5:12           ` [gentoo-project] Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall desultory
2020-12-01 22:07         ` Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Jimi Huotari
2020-12-08 15:17           ` Andreas Sturmlechner
2020-12-04  5:12       ` [gentoo-project] Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall desultory
2020-12-01 15:06   ` Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Aaron W. Swenson
2020-12-01 15:14     ` Aaron Bauman
2020-12-04  5:12   ` [gentoo-project] Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall desultory
2020-12-04 12:45     ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-12-05  4:53       ` desultory
2020-12-05 10:36         ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-12-07  6:04           ` desultory
2020-12-08 11:46           ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-08 12:34             ` Andreas Sturmlechner
2020-12-08 13:02               ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-08 19:40                 ` Andreas Sturmlechner
2020-12-08 20:14                   ` [gentoo-project] " Sam James
2020-12-08 21:13                     ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-11 21:23   ` Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Thomas Deutschmann
2020-12-12  1:07     ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-12  2:38       ` Thomas Deutschmann
2020-12-12  5:48         ` Geoffrey Ekman
2020-12-12 12:00           ` Marek Szuba
2020-12-12 12:04           ` David Seifert
2020-12-12  7:34         ` desultory
2020-12-12 15:15           ` Thomas Deutschmann
2020-12-13  7:27             ` desultory
2020-12-12 12:05       ` [gentoo-project] Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall Ulrich Mueller
2020-12-12 12:07       ` Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Andreas K. Hüttel
2020-12-12 13:24         ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-12 14:47           ` Aaron Bauman
2020-12-13  7:27             ` desultory
2020-12-13  9:19             ` Roy Bamford [this message]
2020-12-13 12:10               ` Marek Szuba
2020-12-13 16:44                 ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-13  0:57       ` William Hubbs
2020-12-12  7:34     ` [gentoo-project] Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall desultory
2020-12-12 13:24   ` Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Michał Górny
2020-12-12 14:42     ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-12 15:15       ` [gentoo-project] Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall Ulrich Mueller
2020-12-12 16:00         ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-12 19:32           ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-12-12 21:08             ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-12 22:29               ` Andreas K. Hüttel
2020-12-13  7:28                 ` desultory
2020-12-12 15:34       ` Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Thomas Deutschmann
2020-12-13  7:28         ` desultory
2020-12-13  9:28           ` Andreas K. Hüttel
2020-12-13 14:36           ` Thomas Deutschmann
2020-12-13 18:43             ` David Seifert
2020-12-15 11:03               ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2020-12-15 11:16                 ` Michał Górny
2020-12-15 11:24                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2020-12-15 11:20                 ` Sam James
2020-12-15 11:35                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2020-12-15 18:04                   ` Jimi Huotari
2020-12-15 14:18                 ` Raymond Jennings
2020-12-15 14:28                   ` Aaron Bauman
2020-12-12 22:23       ` Michał Górny
2020-12-13  1:50         ` Alec Warner
2020-12-13  7:28           ` desultory
2020-12-13  7:36         ` desultory

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