From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:19:33 +0000 [thread overview]
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On 2020.12.12 14:47, Aaron Bauman wrote:
>
>
> On December 12, 2020 8:24:44 AM EST, Roy Bamford
> <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >On 2020.12.12 12:07, Andreas K. Hüttel wrote:
> >> > I have a major concern with the concept of the council
> >> > deciding to close any part of the forum. Its like this ...
> >> > At present, Gentoo is a common carrier, like the mail.
> >> > The content of letters and parcels is of little concern to the
> >> > carrier.
> >> >
> >> > Gentoos status could be changed by a council decision to
> >> > close any part of the forum from common carrier to publisher,
> >> > were the council seen to be exercising editorial control.
> >> > Being a publisher makes Gentoo liable for the published
> >> > content. Gentoo could not run the forums at all under those
> >> > conditions.
> >>
> >> This is misinformation at best, and deliberate confusion sowing at
> >> worst.
> >>
> >> I assume that you're talking about the US legal situation. [#]
> >>
> >
> ><snip totally irrelevant material>
> >
> >> [...]
> >> ====================
> >> https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230
> >>
> >> Cheers.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> ><snip references>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Andreas K. Hüttel
> >> dilfridge@gentoo.org
> >> Gentoo Linux developer
> >> (council, qa, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice)
> >
> >
> >Rule 1 is never assume.
> >That makes the rest of your post irrelevant.
> >
> >In the UK, which selfishly, is all that matters to me, if I compile
> >and edit a community newsletter, I'm the publisher, with all the
> >liabilities
> >of a publisher. Like, say, the News of the World. I have editorial
> >control and am liable for the content.
> >
> >When someone distributes that same newsletter by putting it
> >through the village letterboxes, they have no liability for the
> >content.
> >
> >In the same vein, is the council accidentality, through ignorance or
> >otherwise, in danger of making Gentoo a publisher, with all the
> >attached liability for content?
> >
> >I don't know the answer either.
> >
> >Oh, the News of the World folded after a lawsuit related to an
> >article it published.
>
> This doesn't correlate. The problem is and has been, the content is
> not aligned with our community values and standards.
>
> Simple enough. No need for legal shenanigans, liability, etc.
>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
>
>
0/20 for answering a question I didn't ask and not addressing the
one I did.
Care to try addressing the liability question?
I don't care about the US or from 1-Jan-21, the EU.
I'm in the UK so that's the jurisdiction that applies to me.
--
Regards,
Roy Bamford
(Neddyseagoon) a member of
elections
gentoo-ops
forum-mods
arm64
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Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-30 16:46 [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Coucil meeting 2020-12-13 Georgy Yakovlev
2020-12-01 3:15 ` Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Andreas K. Hüttel
2020-12-01 6:07 ` Alec Warner
2020-12-01 6:30 ` Alec Warner
2020-12-01 15:10 ` Aaron Bauman
2020-12-01 14:58 ` Aaron Bauman
2020-12-01 16:16 ` Alec Warner
2020-12-01 17:31 ` Aaron Bauman
2020-12-04 5:12 ` [gentoo-project] Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall desultory
2020-12-01 22:07 ` Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Jimi Huotari
2020-12-08 15:17 ` Andreas Sturmlechner
2020-12-04 5:12 ` [gentoo-project] Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall desultory
2020-12-01 15:06 ` Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Aaron W. Swenson
2020-12-01 15:14 ` Aaron Bauman
2020-12-04 5:12 ` [gentoo-project] Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall desultory
2020-12-04 12:45 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-12-05 4:53 ` desultory
2020-12-05 10:36 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-12-07 6:04 ` desultory
2020-12-08 11:46 ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-08 12:34 ` Andreas Sturmlechner
2020-12-08 13:02 ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-08 19:40 ` Andreas Sturmlechner
2020-12-08 20:14 ` [gentoo-project] " Sam James
2020-12-08 21:13 ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-11 21:23 ` Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Thomas Deutschmann
2020-12-12 1:07 ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-12 2:38 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2020-12-12 5:48 ` Geoffrey Ekman
2020-12-12 12:00 ` Marek Szuba
2020-12-12 12:04 ` David Seifert
2020-12-12 7:34 ` desultory
2020-12-12 15:15 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2020-12-13 7:27 ` desultory
2020-12-12 12:05 ` [gentoo-project] Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall Ulrich Mueller
2020-12-12 12:07 ` Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Andreas K. Hüttel
2020-12-12 13:24 ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-12 14:47 ` Aaron Bauman
2020-12-13 7:27 ` desultory
2020-12-13 9:19 ` Roy Bamford [this message]
2020-12-13 12:10 ` Marek Szuba
2020-12-13 16:44 ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-13 0:57 ` William Hubbs
2020-12-12 7:34 ` [gentoo-project] Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall desultory
2020-12-12 13:24 ` Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Michał Górny
2020-12-12 14:42 ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-12 15:15 ` [gentoo-project] Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall Ulrich Mueller
2020-12-12 16:00 ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-12 19:32 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-12-12 21:08 ` Roy Bamford
2020-12-12 22:29 ` Andreas K. Hüttel
2020-12-13 7:28 ` desultory
2020-12-12 15:34 ` Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Thomas Deutschmann
2020-12-13 7:28 ` desultory
2020-12-13 9:28 ` Andreas K. Hüttel
2020-12-13 14:36 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2020-12-13 18:43 ` David Seifert
2020-12-15 11:03 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2020-12-15 11:16 ` Michał Górny
2020-12-15 11:24 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2020-12-15 11:20 ` Sam James
2020-12-15 11:35 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2020-12-15 18:04 ` Jimi Huotari
2020-12-15 14:18 ` Raymond Jennings
2020-12-15 14:28 ` Aaron Bauman
2020-12-12 22:23 ` Michał Górny
2020-12-13 1:50 ` Alec Warner
2020-12-13 7:28 ` desultory
2020-12-13 7:36 ` desultory
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