From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCB5E1382C5 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5FCDE0849; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F545E082F for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 09:47:28 -0500 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org From: Aaron Bauman Message-ID: X-Archives-Salt: eb9682a1-ba67-41a5-b2d8-fb557ffba429 X-Archives-Hash: 20cd595b2c3d39bd8d83aaeeffe677ee On December 12, 2020 8:24:44 AM EST, Roy Bamford wrote: >On 2020=2E12=2E12 12:07, Andreas K=2E H=C3=BCttel wrote: >> > I have a major concern with the concept of the council >> > deciding to close any part of the forum=2E Its like this =2E=2E=2E >> > At present, Gentoo is a common carrier, like the mail=2E >> > The content of letters and parcels is of little concern to the >> > carrier=2E >> >=20 >> > Gentoos status could be changed by a council decision to >> > close any part of the forum from common carrier to publisher, >> > were the council seen to be exercising editorial control=2E >> > Being a publisher makes Gentoo liable for the published >> > content=2E Gentoo could not run the forums at all under those >> > conditions=2E >>=20 >> This is misinformation at best, and deliberate confusion sowing at >> worst=2E=20 >>=20 >> I assume that you're talking about the US legal situation=2E [#] >>=20 > > > >> [=2E=2E=2E] >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> https://www=2Elaw=2Ecornell=2Eedu/uscode/text/47/230 >>=20 >> Cheers=2E >>=20 >>=20 >> >=20 > >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Andreas K=2E H=C3=BCttel >> dilfridge@gentoo=2Eorg >> Gentoo Linux developer=20 >> (council, qa, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) > > >Rule 1 is never assume=2E >That makes the rest of your post irrelevant=2E=20 > >In the UK, which selfishly, is all that matters to me, if I compile=20 >and edit a community newsletter, I'm the publisher, with all the >liabilities=20 >of a publisher=2E Like, say, the News of the World=2E I have editorial=20 >control and am liable for the content=2E > >When someone distributes that same newsletter by putting it >through the village letterboxes, they have no liability for the >content=2E > >In the same vein, is the council accidentality, through ignorance or >otherwise, in danger of making Gentoo a publisher, with all the=20 >attached liability for content? > >I don't know the answer either=2E =20 > >Oh, the News of the World folded after a lawsuit related to an >article it published=2E This doesn't correlate=2E The problem is and has been, the content is not = aligned with our community values and standards=2E=20 Simple enough=2E No need for legal shenanigans, liability, etc=2E=20 --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E