From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 897C61382C5 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CBF1E0964; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A0ABE094F for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:48:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.111.125.203] (public-gprs394403.centertel.pl [37.47.171.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 26403335C49; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 12:48:41 +0200 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <20180409102452.mrbt7pkplbcblojt@gentoo.org> References: <20180409102452.mrbt7pkplbcblojt@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [gentoo-project] Fwd: [gentoo-nfp] Agenda item: Formalize Gentoo's org structure To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= Message-ID: X-Archives-Salt: ab8fbef0-139b-42ae-86e8-cd2ae70d115d X-Archives-Hash: 5d1db8f8cdbe19f06f9f86566835f409 FYI, Trustees once again try to push their grab for power, ignoring GLEP 39= and the community members who do not subscribe to -nfp=2E -------- Wiadomo=C5=9B=C4=87 oryginalna -------- Od: Matthew Thode Wys=C5=82ane: 9 kwietnia 2018 12:24:52 CEST Do: gentoo-nfp@lists=2Egentoo=2Eorg Temat: [gentoo-nfp] Agenda item: Formalize Gentoo's org structure Gentoo has been known to be a two headed entity for a while=2E While the fact is that only one of the heads has legal standing to be called Gentoo, the other head has been doing most of the technical work=2E Unfortunately having two heads means that there can be fighting between them=2E In order to finally put the matter to some rest I seek to define Gentoo's org structure=2E Currently, legally, it only consists of the following: 1=2E foundation members 2=2E trustees 3=2E officers (don't have to be foundation members or trustees) I wish to extend that to the following=2E 1=2E foundation members 2=2E trustees 3=2E officers (don't have to be foundation members or trustees) 3=2E1 infra members (or at least the lead) 3=2E2 comrel members (or at least the lead) 3=2E3 council members Infrastructure has a clearly defined role in Gentoo=2E Namely that of managing foundation infrastructure resources=2E Bringing those members under the foundation's umbrella formalizes this=2E Infra has previously been fairly nebulous as to who directs them (having been directed by council, trustees and comrel)=2E Comrel has the clear analog of being the HR (human relations)=2E HR is three to protect the business from human related infighting=2E Comrel was previously under the direction of the council, primarily for historical reasons (the foundation was not well staffed or run until recently)=2E I thank the council for managing this=2E Council is supposed to be the technical leadership within Gentoo, over the last decade or so this responsibility has ballooned to encompass things out side this scope=2E This seeks to clearly define the powers of the council to that of technical leadership=2E One of the drawbacks of this is that being an officer means being an 'organ' of the business, meaning that some of the current members may have conflicts with their current job=2E To this I ask 'Is what you are doing now not vital? If it is doesn't that make you an organ (even if not explicitly stated as such)?' One of the good things about this (other than clearly defining roles and boundaries) is that it allows council members to server as Trustees=2E This would require a bylaw change, but has been something often complained about=2E --=20 Matthew Thode (prometheanfire) --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny (by phone)