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From: Daniel Robbins <drobbins@funtoo.org>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 15:48:47 -0600
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Social Contract clean-up
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On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote:


> You act as if Gentoo is doing something egregious here.  In fact, I'm
> not aware of any organization that operates in the manner you suggest.
> If you were aware of one you'd be citing it instead of arguing in the
> abstract.
>

Please pardon my language, but I think your comment merits this kind of
response -- are you fucking kidding me? So you are unaware of any
organization that produces software which solicits feedback from the people
who actually use the software? EVERY organization does this. Find me one
that doesn't. The burden of proof is on you.

-Daniel

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at, Mar 31, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Rich Freeman <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:rich0@gentoo.org" target=3D"_blank">rich0@gentoo.org</a>&gt;</span> =
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too is doing something egregious here.=C2=A0 In fact, I&#39;m<br>
not aware of any organization that operates in the manner you suggest.<br>
If you were aware of one you&#39;d be citing it instead of arguing in the<b=
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abstract.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Please pardon my language, bu=
t I think your comment merits this kind of response -- are you fucking kidd=
ing me? So you are unaware of any organization that produces software which=
 solicits feedback from the people who actually use the software? EVERY org=
anization does this. Find me one that doesn&#39;t. The burden of proof is o=
n you.</div><div><br></div><div>-Daniel=C2=A0</div></div></div></div>

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