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From: Daniel Robbins <drobbins@funtoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Social Contract clean-up
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 09:38:41 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDOV488yZgWKJgRyXR=hE8FNRcdtMdmVw2aswUZmOR1SdDcWg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <23227.23677.480269.995092@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de>

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On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 3:12 AM, Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> wrote:

> >>>>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2018, Daniel Robbins wrote:
>
> >>> The trustees, as a whole, have complete authority over the project,
> >>> and have the ability and legal authority to remove Council members
> >>> that they may feel are a threat to the long-term stability of
> >>> the project.
>
> Council and trustees are independently elected bodies, so there is no
> hierarchy between them. Especially, the only way to remove a council
> member is by election (or by slacker mark). GLEP 39 is very clear
> there.
>

GLEP 39 has absolutely no legal standing. It is a fantasy document compared
to the actual authority of the trustees.

> No, you are misrepresenting the actual authority of Trustees. They
> > have actual, real authority over the project as opposed to imagined
> > authority that you seem to appeal to.
>
> Good luck with exercising that authority over developers who are all
> volunteers. :)
>

Sure, the Trustees have no authority over these volunteers -- as long as
they are not operating under the Gentoo name, Gentoo infrastructure, Gentoo
repos, not using the Gentoo logo, Gentoo domains, etc. They are totally
free to leave the project which is run by the Trustees, and then the
trustees have no authority over them. But as long as they are on a project
called "Gentoo Linux", the trustees have the authority to remove assholes
from the project if they so desire.

-Daniel

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-28 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-27  0:09 [gentoo-project] Social Contract clean-up Daniel Robbins
2018-03-27  0:15 ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-27  0:39   ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-27  0:47     ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-27  1:14       ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
2018-03-27  1:30         ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-27  1:54           ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-27  2:09             ` Matthew Thode
2018-03-27  6:56             ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-27  8:07             ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-03-27 22:32               ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2018-03-28  9:26                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-03-27  8:19             ` Michał Górny
2018-03-27 15:47               ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-27 16:28                 ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-27 16:31                   ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-27 16:49                     ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-27 17:18                       ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-27 17:43                         ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-27 18:38                           ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-27 19:40                             ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-27 20:26                               ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-27 20:39                                 ` Alec Warner
2018-03-27 20:53                                   ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-29 22:20                                   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-03-27 20:44                                 ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-27 22:52                                   ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-27 23:01                                     ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
2018-03-27 23:42                                   ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-03-28  9:12                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-03-28 15:38                               ` Daniel Robbins [this message]
2018-03-28 16:23                                 ` Alec Warner
2018-03-28 16:38                                   ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-28 17:09                                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-03-28 17:21                                       ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-28 17:39                                         ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-28 19:25                                           ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-28 16:41                                 ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-28 16:44                                   ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-28 16:52                                     ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-28 16:47                                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-03-28 17:06                                   ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-30 15:03                                     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-03-30 17:35                                       ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-30 18:14                                         ` Seemant Kulleen
2018-03-30 23:49                                           ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-31  0:24                                             ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-31  4:13                                               ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-31 10:39                                                 ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-31 19:06                                                   ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-31 20:30                                                     ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-31 21:48                                                       ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-31 22:01                                                         ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-31 22:09                                                           ` Michał Górny
2018-03-31 22:13                                                             ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-31 23:52                                                             ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-31 22:13                                                           ` Chris Reffett
2018-03-31 22:14                                                             ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-31 22:22                                                         ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-31 22:24                                                           ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-31 22:42                                                             ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-31 22:53                                                               ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-31 23:17                                                                 ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-31 23:35                                                                   ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-31 23:58                                                                     ` Rich Freeman
2018-04-01  0:16                                                                       ` Daniel Robbins
2018-04-01  3:33                                                                         ` R0b0t1
2018-04-02  3:59                                                                     ` Dean Stephens
2018-04-02  4:56                                                                       ` Daniel Robbins
2018-04-02  5:05                                                                         ` Daniel Robbins
2018-04-03  3:57                                                                           ` Dean Stephens
2018-03-31 22:59                                                               ` Daniel Robbins
2018-04-02  3:59                                                         ` Dean Stephens
2018-04-02  5:41                                                           ` Daniel Robbins
2018-04-02  5:45                                                             ` Daniel Robbins
2018-04-02  9:47                                                             ` Michał Górny
2018-04-02 14:56                                                               ` Daniel Robbins
2018-04-02 19:42                                                       ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2018-04-02 19:52                                                         ` Daniel Robbins
2018-04-02 19:59                                                           ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2018-04-02 20:06                                                             ` Daniel Robbins
2018-04-02 19:55                                                     ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2018-04-02 19:57                                                       ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-31  6:48                                               ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2018-03-31 10:59                                                 ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-31 13:03                                                   ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
2018-04-02  3:59                                                   ` Dean Stephens
2018-03-30 19:38                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-03-30 23:51                                     ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-29 22:18                       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-03-29 22:17                 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-03-29 22:15             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-03-29 22:05           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-03-27 16:49     ` Alec Warner
2018-03-27 17:38       ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-27 19:12         ` Matthew Thode
2018-03-27 19:37         ` Michał Górny
2018-03-27 20:12           ` Daniel Robbins
2018-03-27 20:25             ` Michał Górny
2018-03-28 15:12   ` Matthias Maier
2018-03-29 22:04 ` Andreas K. Huettel

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