From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BF9B1382C5 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 17:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 14D6AE096F; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 17:38:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-it0-x231.google.com (mail-it0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA31DE08ED for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 17:38:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it0-x231.google.com with SMTP id y20-v6so219747itc.5 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 10:38:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=funtoo-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=SWPR9FPrPm+HotKhQYRUnHGNZtzq5Wuu8KWI/jR0iPU=; b=X5kPcjuxyYas2ApEw4ElxK4T1COl2NnUz1e2GiwmXyzODwdf7Ul7YT82ydYDc8DIl+ NbovXs4U0/AT+bBRmCGqcP0VDsxXDY1jX99n8Pu/PgnlduzG1JfHkiys9eVngEIwX60K 9xhE2wkMPdhYZO5MDromUSiASd8+rpOvVFl7eKs1Gnjr+UmaK3+wL6T8SlfTmob0WLn9 YO3SlonI7UjUJSBi2G+IafTqLP8AYNRaYY4LzHgPgA5EoFxsfwxHCO5ov+naoQMc/4Yh kqozOqc/BGMHMcskIjqS3m7MPo/jTvdhi70mua7d4AazgX6vwssNsZ+yDxLuAxK8K5O0 /7SA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=SWPR9FPrPm+HotKhQYRUnHGNZtzq5Wuu8KWI/jR0iPU=; b=BVm4bb1UXterWhKeQ1B2ZiggT9yg5CSIdARAv91N0EyVrCRKfn1eO9I1FATgpoJM7w kKNQrwhU9SajBUjgBiC44D2ZZzEJQm9TiIC/JJa7P3UiYRFqwqhDfDVF0MC1TOXVnXmE 1f5BDeo3tNqHpO/8+Ha9ic5sYStsVOCUEtYal1WZI23qOhU5zvYx0UnRGf7uD9n8HsXU rmeH7Nj9UPnlNSJ4xYPO+kDDL3UBtMGrd3p/Qa2Hn+zo8ifH3KQ67qCKYE5XoatQ+K6j dunx+40CKCNKBcewOoze8LiaBnZXSZaLmnqhj6u2b0863+rFi0hLJJOV5hVUflBafgmX VrAA== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7F7ojFKdCTeRiY+gr4T+Si+dEk3s3x4ghKOdHs2+kcBlbHwS5Ky hTL3Hp7CNVefTqZLPZ2vF+ThNHcd3X0wYJpKlip/+SUPPXk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx49mVZd6qBmqVvW/K4dNKJN2BpQOPCmfSzTDccuVAMPXopUG4yBPlLFHbjFMKOdQPusi6rCd6OwH7dHA0lCAZpw= X-Received: by 2002:a24:2d0:: with SMTP id 199-v6mr195834itu.23.1522172302987; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 10:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.165.70 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 10:38:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Daniel Robbins Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 11:38:22 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Social Contract clean-up To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000685f6b0568685bf3" X-Archives-Salt: 916284de-68b4-4c3d-ac6e-a53583565daa X-Archives-Hash: 0f58433a9ac7fdfd9bf4bb0c7a4b5525 --000000000000685f6b0568685bf3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > > I actually thought this too, but sadly its not in the Bylaws[1]. > > Instead its just in some text about the Foundation[2]. > > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Bylaws > [2] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Main_Page# > Trustee_Responsibilities > Let me direct you to Article 5 ("Trustees"), Section 1 ("Powers"): "The business and affairs of the foundation shall be managed by or under the direction of the Board of Trustees, the "Trustees", which may exercise all such powers of the foundation and do all such lawful acts and things as are not by statute or by the Certificate of Incorporation or by these Bylaws specifically reserved to the members." ^^^^^^^ I think I may need to insert some asterisks. The Trustees may exercise **all such powers of the foundation**. Which powers? **all powers**. What lawful acts, **all such lawful acts and things as are not by statute or by the Certificate of Incorporation or by these Bylaws specifically reserved for the members.** Let me clarify here that "statute" means "written law", so in other words, GLEP 37 is not a statute. What this means is that while a Council system exists, this is with the consent of the Trustees, and its existence does not in any way diminish the authority of the Trustees over the project. What the Trustees *cannot* do is ignore what is in the Bylaws, which means that they are elected by members, and that their positions have a term, etc. That's the law, folks. -Daniel --000000000000685f6b0568685bf3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org>= wrote:

I actually thought this too, but sad= ly its not in the Bylaws[1].

Instead its just in s= ome text about the Foundation[2].

=

Let me direct you to Article 5 ("Trustees"), = Section 1 ("Powers"):

"The business= and affairs of the foundation shall be managed by or under the direction o= f the Board of Trustees, the "Trustees", which may exercise all s= uch powers of the foundation and do all such lawful acts and things as are = not by statute or by the Certificate of Incorporation or by these Bylaws sp= ecifically reserved to the members."

^^^^^^^<= /div>

I think I may need to insert some asterisks. The T= rustees may exercise **all such powers of the foundation**. Which powers? *= *all powers**. What lawful acts, **all such lawful acts and things as are n= ot by statute or by the Certificate of Incorporation or by these Bylaws spe= cifically reserved for the members.** Let me clarify here that "statut= e" means "written law", so in other words, GLEP 37 is not a = statute.

What this means is that while a Council s= ystem exists, this is with the consent of the Trustees, and its existence d= oes not in any way diminish the authority of the Trustees over the project.=

What the Trustees *cannot* do is ignore what is i= n the Bylaws, which means that they are elected by members, and that their = positions have a term, etc.

That's the law, fo= lks.

-Daniel
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