From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-project+bounces-7465-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F48C1382C5 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 20:20:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 504C6E0F26; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 20:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-it0-x233.google.com (mail-it0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AB60E0E2B for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 20:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it0-x233.google.com with SMTP id r19-v6so20365393itc.0 for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 02 Apr 2018 13:20:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=funtoo-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=CgvNS3dLhfKPOtwKgh+TgLVR98woXrjXF98eB4yZjMA=; b=QlO/JKEBy2olQHq0KoyZJg9oF6p/J1h/5XKsUsMbPW1uVRSx8K0TZMoiLgyxEf8wHN xjuL1IrjgVMKR9KfJUOFQGuYQNpoLyD6LuIfqe6V51ckRGGd54mDmeExDH8K72XnMP2J zQgdAEahRGXZIVvsFivz6X1p/vhqHyUIRUZnRlQTr7SOSR2nmX0S9uXEAtLOKFv9HYSf hqXFGprBGt6Z78bqcJR6V2kV0Y2NTczAJUdN2Mz1fDK5dEDHTuMyPG2HzJYH/fJ5sCE9 Y/xfIRHE/49WlSe0gOaLKl28Wxr5yRuS7MjBtdb2kl6PGyJCPgrGC0DWxocF9BBRcu9q RlIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=CgvNS3dLhfKPOtwKgh+TgLVR98woXrjXF98eB4yZjMA=; b=T9F1HNoaJIskKvpYOtUtJmFnm0YIaV8So30R4XZghW5mKGwnpwBJP/PMcLPvx7yxr0 1I2CSZdhm7vw2fltW1A+nwRrG3gsyzXJrCDJdti/nwHXHD7s0w9X/GTsqblNsuQBKgSz 1+gv8fZ8MJTKbsSngLDpf5gkE4xDiQQqLADBlU1Z8Ij+Q+HB2pWDS6Ia9VXzV5X1J4eB t62VoNXcUgPFnTHJpQtzJkGoh2tAhVM1W9zYZWyMfaG359QLq4YewhsB6oVBGGtYnUY8 49hv+/5u5bxsrBgy5E5PY5Xp09tsnexFPY+O89j/3hxuAWNqXsuACE0yJFpe1ZMZPUul GAlA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tCDIsOCHBwM8rP4nO4m4wOSY4LVgF2NSerH+4fT2YrqoVTNBrPs xm81dVKx2upz7xWEdRqAI128ItP4DGRqw1GUMd6DwZRl X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx49A3WANtPqWRdnlyHkv8MQvzgEid64QJK3dq51pY2SbFpejgkGTzq083LBL7fEPYbD9Xa0C+u7UXQydAfF+NG4= X-Received: by 2002:a24:d14:: with SMTP id 20-v6mr2671471itx.44.1522700416744; Mon, 02 Apr 2018 13:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-project+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list <gentoo-project.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.78.215 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 13:20:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20180402161411.5b0ba2fefc8fe83a223cdf89@hardcoded.net> References: <CAPDOV4_SSJwHv2YuBA=Ph1dpqWboGXtKT8D2NG25Pzbi9HSf6w@mail.gmail.com> <CAPDOV49Ybvpj6AX6TT5q7b_oRTtbDT5gBAdNFEumtOjw2mN=qA@mail.gmail.com> <1522677230.14250.62.camel@gentoo.org> <CAPDOV48APQxHAJC6YzKRo42A721MSbSsdomaSL2Qh91EBe3VnQ@mail.gmail.com> <d84d80fa-75a0-f88a-91e1-4eb59608e817@gentoo.org> <CAGfcS_mWyvY7RZWaEED-RhT=EwWaGfRGTnyNOByOZre11Wo-2w@mail.gmail.com> <ea8b9878-de8f-c664-d08d-9131edf6519e@gentoo.org> <CAPDOV491GBpA0tfZbu6qZUcVno_SV5YO+xJ3zobEsmgaO5uEkg@mail.gmail.com> <20180402161411.5b0ba2fefc8fe83a223cdf89@hardcoded.net> From: Daniel Robbins <drobbins@funtoo.org> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 14:20:15 -0600 Message-ID: <CAPDOV4-cU-UJ2G1Lo=KP03QDxXUJQ_YvSVBTONvb=kZ+PEEqrg@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Burden of proof To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000070bff50568e3516a" X-Archives-Salt: 4484feff-9263-48de-bd26-295687a009ee X-Archives-Hash: 40a97e8766c12fd7ea226267b15fb71d --00000000000070bff50568e3516a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:14 PM, Virgil Dupras <hsoft@hardcoded.net> wrote: > On Mon, 2 Apr 2018 13:49:25 -0600 > Daniel Robbins <drobbins@funtoo.org> wrote: > > > [obscene attacks] > > Regardless of the merit of anything that was said in this > way-larger-than-it-should topic(-cluster), you had already crossed the line > once, vulgarity-wise, was warned, and came back with something even more > vulgar. > > None of your interlocutors even came close in terms of vulgarity. This is > beyond childish retaliation, it's a gratuitous, vulgar attack and is > objectively unacceptable. > There is already a bug open to ban me from posting to this list for 7 days. Interestingly, mgorny is on the comrel@gentoo.org, alias, even though he is not technically part of comrel, of course. It's interesting how far his tendrils go. He clearly is more than just a passive overseer of comrel. Sometimes, vulgarity is appropriate. This is one case. Do a YouTube search for "Assholes are ruining your project" by former developer Donnie Berkholz. "Asshole" is a term that is used to describe a specific type of behavior and is taken from Donnie's research. Best, Daniel --00000000000070bff50568e3516a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On M= on, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:14 PM, Virgil Dupras <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"= mailto:hsoft@hardcoded.net" target=3D"_blank">hsoft@hardcoded.net</a>></= span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e= x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Mon, 2 Apr 2018 13:49:25 = -0600<br> Daniel Robbins <<a href=3D"mailto:drobbins@funtoo.org">drobbins@funtoo.o= rg</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > [obscene attacks]<br> <br> Regardless of the merit of anything that was said in this way-larger-than-i= t-should topic(-cluster), you had already crossed the line once, vulgarity-= wise, was warned, and came back with something even more vulgar.<br> <br> None of your interlocutors even came close in terms of vulgarity. This is b= eyond childish retaliation, it's a gratuitous, vulgar attack and is obj= ectively unacceptable.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There is already= a bug open to ban me from posting to this list for 7 days. Interestingly, = mgorny is on the <a href=3D"mailto:comrel@gentoo.org">comrel@gentoo.org</a>= , alias, even though he is not technically part of comrel, of course. It= 9;s interesting how far his tendrils go. He clearly is more than just a pas= sive overseer of comrel.</div><div><br></div><div>Sometimes, vulgarity is a= ppropriate. This is one case. Do a YouTube search for "Assholes are ru= ining your project" by former developer Donnie Berkholz. "Asshole= " is a term that is used to describe a specific type of behavior and i= s taken from Donnie's research.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><di= v><br>Daniel=C2=A0</div></div></div></div> --00000000000070bff50568e3516a--