From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CAC31381F3 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1627AE099F; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:33:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qe0-f50.google.com (mail-qe0-f50.google.com [209.85.128.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79B58E0996 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f50.google.com with SMTP id f6so1118409qej.23 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 02:33:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ROp37ES9aSZoLeuiOX2bubN1mKnXpXRQ+XGQeO3XMf0=; b=JQnf16WGIAho5UjHdXZwXT2BjxSFWPrrdUxBSsbS/QazVk5gxnGdnEZq37hXpDl3kl 2N5QAnboxH4/dfZpSXITLW/UdyJYU12paJHr92/dtjfYrxaKl+F639sX2C5wsK8Zr2Ot vj99oV7u4LY104M5IvKZtDRBGlYqPQ2on16t4nz+9sxIAjb1sA/sRcRuijVUO0qmn9ZZ oZ40PmuDgk+8VEfF9EgZDjTSCkG3Yx2Hkmz/GYKD5jfCwq52MVAsjIPYxWC6EJm9HBIr WMLtLT1wSt8lP4Ndu1c3N2box6ri5YK9Fqo4rQs0y2MWDWzDBPznipDHtX5lgR3ksLrD 9PjQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.40.129 with SMTP id k1mr11200898qae.28.1371375220632; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 02:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.98.229 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 02:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.98.229 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 02:33:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51BD5BBB.9060201@gentoo.org> References: <201306151350.08725.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20130615115423.GJ96789@gentoo.org> <201306151415.01134.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <51BD5BBB.9060201@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 05:33:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo as a team effort From: Douglas Dunn To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf0f4a0e1306f04df422c58 X-Archives-Salt: 184d77a1-9a24-496c-938a-50ecf089a25e X-Archives-Hash: 57bf755132004cfc55707bb9484cd0f2 --047d7bf0f4a0e1306f04df422c58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think some people are blowing things out of proportion here. Times have been more chaotic in the distant past than what we have going on now at least in my 10 years with gentoo, but i gather that things are getting a little heated here. Maybe its time to expand dev-rel's authority, such as applying some basic rules to all the devs. Not saying people are doing these things but rules like no cursing in official communiqu=C3=A9, no personal attacks, promises = to obey the decisions of the dev-rel arbitration. And perhaps give dev-rel some ability to punnish the devs, suspending their privlidges or whatnot for breaking the simple rules. Mostly there shouldnt be this endless bickering. If two maintainers cant agree instead of an endless fight, they should just acknowledge that things have reached an impass go to dev-rel and let them decide what is to happen, maybe let them appeal to the lead of dev-rel and after that send an official appeal to the council. But there is really no need for this endless arguing about such small things. --047d7bf0f4a0e1306f04df422c58 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think some people are blowing things out of proportion her= e. Times have been more chaotic in the distant past than what we have going= on now at least in my 10 years with gentoo, but i gather that things are g= etting a little heated here.=C2=A0

Maybe its time to expand dev-rel's authority, such as ap= plying some basic rules to all the devs.=C2=A0 Not saying people are doing = these things but rules like no cursing in official communiqu=C3=A9, no pers= onal attacks, promises to obey the decisions of the dev-rel arbitration. An= d perhaps give dev-rel some ability to punnish the devs, suspending their p= rivlidges or whatnot for breaking the simple rules.

Mostly there shouldnt be this endless bickering.=C2=A0 If tw= o maintainers cant agree instead of an endless fight, they should just ackn= owledge that things have reached an impass go to dev-rel and let them decid= e what is to happen, maybe let them appeal to the lead of dev-rel and after= that send an official appeal to the council. But there is really no need f= or this endless arguing about such small things.

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