From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7DC138A1A for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:17:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C39BDE09B7; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C8F6E0993 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: djc) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 234A53407A7 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id r20so21091112wiv.2 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 05:17:38 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.194.134.68 with SMTP id pi4mr39672045wjb.101.1424006258752; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 05:17:38 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.27.11.213 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 05:17:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201502142148.30540.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <1423967017.19532.4.camel@gentoo.org> From: Dirkjan Ochtman Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:17:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: f7d60cd6-72a4-4414-8900-35adf3c5a105 X-Archives-Hash: f5e41a8ab0441c601aed42188bd3818f On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > It is unfortunate that things fall through the cracks at infra, and > more and more useful tools are not provided by services under > gentoo.org, but by personal initiatives and hosted on other domains. > > For this reason I propose that Sven Wegener, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny, and = Patrick > Lauer be made members of the infra team, because they get things done > that the other infra members don't (for whatever reason, not pointing > fingers here). I'm thinking here about useful tools such as: > > - https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo-portage-rsync-mirror > - http://cgit.gentooexperimental.org/ > - #gentoo-commits bot > - AutoRepoman I think this is an interesting proposal. While the current infra members are no doubt technically strong, I think there currently exists an organization problem in that team in that they are failing to scale with the rest of the community. I have offered to help out a bunch of times, as I know others have, and clearly some people are making a positive contribution without being infra members, but it feels to me like all of that would be much more efficient if they were actually part of infra. I do think this discussion deserves its own thread, since this thread is already being contaminated with way too much repetition. Cheers, Dirkjan