Hi Denis,

You're obviously frustrated (and you might even be giving voice to more
than just your own feeling, here).

I didn't read Rich's replies as ordering anyone around.  In fact, I dare
say Rich is very consistent at suggesting and discussing, but I have yet to
witness him order someone around on this list.

I have had no personal interaction with him (ever), but he doesn't seem
like an order-around kinda guy here.

Having said all of that, there's a LOT of baggage around Gentoo's
leadership. You (Denis) know from our private conversations that that
baggage started around 2002/3 and that I've been carrying a lot of
emotional baggage as well.

But this is 2014. This is now, this is a time that we can shed baggage,
because it serves no other purpose than to weigh us down. There's nobody
left to blame.

I ask, as user, that you please take a more charitable approach to everyone
on the team with the simple understanding that everyone in their own way
just wants to improve Gentoo.

Thanks again,

Seemant



On 4 July 2014 12:06, Denis Dupeyron <calchan@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Seemant Kulleen <seemantk@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'm sorry to speak publicly, but isn't this email exactly the kind of
> > attitude we're trying to reverse. As a senior member of the project, I
> > really would hope you set a better example of the change that you,
> yourself,
> > have said you wanted to see.
>
> You are perfectly right to speak publicly. The point I was trying to
> make in this email is very simple. The only good way of changing how a
> team operates, for better or worse, is to join it. Ordering people
> around without actually doing anything only works if you're the one
> signing the paychecks.
>
> Have we reached a point where council members are such divas that they
> can't even be told when they missed a perfectly good opportunity to
> shut up?
>
> Denis.
>
>