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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Council meeting 2015-04-14: call for agenda items
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 09:33:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_np+Ngr0MgpsesFDXeexbu-mJVtU=b6e6rmEfquZnikJw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150408115116.GA6220@linux1>

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 7:51 AM, William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> Changing the status of the arches in repoman is all I thought we were
> discussing. I wasn't saying we should revert or remove stable keywords
> for them. I think that's what vapier is doing with s390, sh, etc.
>
> Marking the arches dev or exp in the profiles means that repoman, by
> default, doesn't complain about broken depgraphs for them.

Well, we really have a few options as far as imposing changes from
outside the arch team goes (the arch team can clean up its own
depgraph, of course, but presumably we'd be taking action only if they
didn't).

1.  We could make the arches dev/exp as you point out, and then allow
maintainers to just drop stable versions and break their depgraph.

2.  We could keep the arches as stable, but then allow maintainers to
do massive keyword changes when they drop otherwise-stable versions.
That wouldn't break the depgraph, but it would mean that at random
times huge numbers of packages could have their keywords change.

Neither option is really ideal.  I think that #1 is the lesser evil,
but that does mean that we need to make a distro-wide decision.  The
advantage of #2 is that it basically is a NOP unless the arch team
actually reaches 90 days old.  I think it is better to just have the
Council make a decision rather than kicking the can, but that said if
an arch team is willing to state clearly that they intend to
proactively clean up their depgraph and that they want to keep stable
keywords, I'm fine with checking back in a month rather than
de-stabilizing them next week.

-- 
Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-08 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-02 14:14 [gentoo-project] Council meeting 2015-04-14: call for agenda items Tim Harder
2015-04-02 16:45 ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-04-03 19:33 ` [gentoo-project] " Michael Palimaka
2015-04-03 20:01   ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-03 20:13     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-04-04 14:31       ` Michael Palimaka
2015-04-04 15:13         ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-04 15:44           ` Michał Górny
2015-04-04 15:48           ` Michał Górny
2015-04-04 22:02           ` William Hubbs
2015-04-05 12:32             ` Pacho Ramos
2015-04-05 12:44               ` Ben de Groot
2015-04-05 19:50               ` William Hubbs
2015-04-05 20:20                 ` James Le Cuirot
2015-04-05 21:27                 ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-04-05 22:54                   ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-05 23:05                     ` Patrick Lauer
2015-04-06  0:47                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-06  7:55                         ` Michał Górny
2015-04-06 20:52                         ` Pacho Ramos
2015-04-06 22:22                           ` Matt Turner
2015-04-07 15:38                             ` Michael Palimaka
2015-04-07 23:25                               ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-04-07 23:29                                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-07 23:50                                   ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-04-08 11:51                                   ` William Hubbs
2015-04-08 13:33                                     ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2015-04-08 17:39                                       ` William Hubbs
2015-04-08 18:15                                         ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-08 22:41                                           ` William Hubbs
2015-04-09  0:01                                             ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-08 11:58                                   ` Michael Palimaka
2015-04-07 23:38                             ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-07 23:42                               ` Francesco Riosa
2015-04-08  0:01                               ` Matt Turner
2015-04-08  0:35                                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-05 23:38                     ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-04-06  7:59                       ` Michał Górny
2015-04-06 10:29                         ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-06 11:09                           ` Michał Górny
2015-04-06 21:37                         ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-04-06 22:05                           ` Michał Górny
2015-04-06 22:25                             ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-04-06 22:28                           ` William Hubbs
2015-04-07  0:02                           ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-06  9:28 ` [gentoo-project] " Michał Górny
2015-04-11  7:13   ` Ben de Groot
2015-04-11  9:04     ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-04-11 11:58       ` Rich Freeman

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