From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC9E6139085 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 19:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE5F2234069; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 19:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt0-x243.google.com (mail-qt0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94D6D234068 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 19:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-x243.google.com with SMTP id a29so12478847qtb.1 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 11:28:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=O4rv4+7xwDR2rPI6s8ap7F9UQiDUdfTlcJnNb/2CEEg=; b=Q3e5U/AawXWrE8QiShV+r5outFF+P6acc25bExcgAA3eMc0cEa5Z2ptnp3geWWwVY/ jCrlxhEumimdGVHungZuk7bJVQEWhzqTCQa2L+rMEfy1sLPDAbysT58I7kgHsRZQ4JSB 4r2jiAhvZJigQeXAXdAI+yi4C3FXW3LujUdNxRyyDg+YLpdYhV9znS+ysxP1N3sORA1s xEWhsmGzkRVUyr2fYL9P853RS2VW6SzVPa+K72vlVfHMuWB4fYh/ao9hVdB+oSSGcR+g nhe/CyMPEzBrwMlMpM3GmHZ1MDG75GUqi9439kLYCxkQgyN8uQfHyAjp2XH3fucPNIc5 5S0Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=O4rv4+7xwDR2rPI6s8ap7F9UQiDUdfTlcJnNb/2CEEg=; b=rdT95t8TPCF4gqC3YqZI5G0PiBintxEAqxeB5PtT15R4gFH+A1H+otmN91vZB5E4q5 7M5qFchKZTjIhd6kzwivfVXNNDa2yWhCjW9qtrUKO2Rbhmnv4vh332ObC0wasdn7LuMY YMnL/SxIs3RtMa8ntKKRNTbq/nzriuMY/i68XGF+J1NqdI5ukrXQ9Has/RpOr4ChnlZY NnpXrUShseu/fkK45kzbjLYMiPwuMEpUdGtqK/jCKGjvQCshk+rTj5ozzwZqwzdQ7FkF KXasxsr82RT/5W31xYxfiefGFhQ1mlQJhRwkpnMb2QAGdEbKCDuJi3GNvro52Lt1Sv2+ oLvg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIbGMAvJFin0jvvv5qGWczFdhKqPhxRHLufqZnmOhuGNkp0BPye+LYefrzE00MQRktWvoNaH2L22JJdJQ== X-Received: by 10.55.20.105 with SMTP id e102mr15529331qkh.35.1485113279746; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 11:27:59 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.16.132 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 11:27:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Rich Freeman Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 14:27:58 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: J2YKDdiIDrkXcEaXsbWgtZHyeso Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] RFC: GLEP - Require Projects to report to Council Monthly To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 65c7396f-b50b-49cc-8b4e-0bb22a175f2b X-Archives-Hash: 2c042551cd9a410268cff3a84a279e11 On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 12:55 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Sunday, January 22, 2017 12:44:38 PM EST Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > At the same time, if areas are going neglected, people are aware yet do >> > nothing. What does that say? >> >> That they don't care much about the specific areas being neglected? > > Which means they do not care about Gentoo over all. They only care about the > pieces they use or work with. Sure. Why shouldn't they? > >> The people who are going to be most motivated to contribute to >> specific areas of Gentoo are those who care the most about those >> specific areas. That's basically how Gentoo works. > > Which again means no one cares about Gentoo over all. No one cares to bring > all the pieces together. All the pieces do come together. What pieces on Gentoo do you see not working together? > > Gentoo doesn't really work. That is part of the misnomer. > Your conclusion doesn't follow. The fact that Java on Gentoo doesn't work doesn't mean that Gentoo doesn't work. If people cared that much about Java working on Gentoo, then it would work. Care isn't measured in mailing list posts, it is measured in pull requests and such. -- Rich