From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 288A2139085 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 01:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E6FBE0E0A; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 01:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt0-x242.google.com (mail-qt0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECB92E0E09 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 01:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-x242.google.com with SMTP id l7so12778269qtd.3 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:01:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=Gvqq79XoLMXy4hoIa4KXVDHn6R/12ZZcDWsqPk8AvGE=; b=SjrfrHjyTEnK3v5eLv4gY02luR0uNN+FAaiVTpzH3dVlgaYKs4LX0X0TCsMXo5G5mA NPkbSaMwCBtTKFrYLDn5Kfzuq4utFqRL+p9nK5ATJzfcSd062JMH1OR12mCr+9A0EHBN fS5ve5JKA1Q/b2WvcYitTEzHnd5VC1wfQAO+WBHPJxwpLZnxIyTQyeAnt80ef5NFgR/5 vveT8IYK1mSQjDCnJBCTYZttzLgf4Pwj/Ueu4M6lbnjLN/fak0uWQ+NY8RiD2U/q9dTF F9k+aJDwyoDbJdzGgfLlQYqsbR4i+B/d+EFUhO4gwG3dCr7FN985h9IcQywkEwzK4eo3 Ry6Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Gvqq79XoLMXy4hoIa4KXVDHn6R/12ZZcDWsqPk8AvGE=; b=HStrcmzZsGvfygciQFdhyuKP7jyjbtHKyweC1FLVNMMkLyTnhL4EbUVzwINQpVN7PP UDVuqVG3ylMLQCDHlYzAWMRX1fsDXITZC64qWs/Uxd7F2uaPe8jO56YwoyotjY5mYB5I kySE7hWCBieglG/Nyeg+QFv6pvIvMyfJyeKrobSO1dmftWEMs3A6zJFMcOHSEPHcEfE4 SVDPI8gHgxcqZXfyMO8FmAPQ4tYsr0fDHn43Xgf+2QZVJULdWctiGKeeGrpAAFEe/5s5 Vrk4oIuvrizBj0TQgokebldexdZkimMs4uIB4mRlQha17v7Gv2UUdfzpO7KY1LZjSxIf dQgQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXI8p/BF4EbRQexNsFKbZbjjGMcZYaLh4xBMEZhIBubaKcd1fi2zH/fwsfBrP8HUuOjSQwl9qvYhCrisEg== X-Received: by 10.200.39.212 with SMTP id x20mr26098630qtx.109.1484528463024; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:01:03 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.16.132 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:01:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1604622.bZRWYHrp25@pinacolada> <98230e5a-36ed-283a-2d5d-a62c2901808e@gentoo.org> From: Rich Freeman Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:01:02 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qRH_g1IBNUpj9iXcIxcMitB3mV0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Formally have Council oversee the Foundation 2.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: bebdfb0f-f6db-4c0b-a185-2fbbcf72b7db X-Archives-Hash: 6c70be124f3e879f44c8f69c45508b67 On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Raymond Jennings wrote: > > IIRC the whole purpose of the gentoo foundation is to own the IP and > insulate the actual developers from legal issues, thus saith my dev quizzes. > Keep in mind that at least under US law corporations generally shield their INVESTORS from liability, but not their employees. If I break a law at work, I certainly can be subject to criminal prosecution. This is also increasingly the trend (see the Yate's Memo for starters). Maybe the Foundation might serve as a more attractive target for a lawsuit, but the fact that you stick Gentoo's name on something doesn't end your personal liability. > > Similiarly, "gentoo" cannot be sued, because it does not exist as a legal > entity. The Gentoo Foundation, however, can sue and be sued. Sure, but being able to be sued isn't actually a good thing. :) It is just an inevitable consequence to legally holding property. If you use an umbrella org then they become the one who has to worry about being sued, and presumably they're better at it. -- Rich