From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFE2B139085 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 20:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 42548234041; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 20:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt0-x243.google.com (mail-qt0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0905D234038 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 20:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-x243.google.com with SMTP id n13so16433464qtc.0 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:11:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=w5EVfXWIdKynZUQw4I6jMjGR66LfncAPI80y/tYJynQ=; b=mJYI/9Om4qmk/2tOnG7rnn25U2jJJ7oFxxXF+Dfe7Ujfrgzwp02ylJAUreMz9DtcDt eIvnqFfzDSeBlZgQiHeUxDUUJ6iJZVpPP6PWLaSwYz+HEr+7Fx9nQa938wJzY+TvLcUa weNij4oeu6pniV2I2IPu8yJK7pFbgXTqlOICrRwRMy/gLwMynWgdpEEMhrNnOLbKHjV9 SX3lXZbZkBTEFWGoOawjzm1jGIg76hDnzn9VTCmF1vN7q4nvlKqxmjivpmpqipkFEXZq rR26u5Y5YraHHiNIMH5aKHWaz8pb9lrGtU2sllKvwlMiK/WmAhc/MCoswgzDesjF5bk+ PtXA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=w5EVfXWIdKynZUQw4I6jMjGR66LfncAPI80y/tYJynQ=; b=i1A/mFSA2V5Zig/MoAgHeUQMKZwr5bv4qETiW6PfAGZTA1KfXVioNW4a3u7kBoycB5 JCMfUvxxYNFzXVvpa7Y2xj+UcIJV2fq64vKoNt582U9PeAhY/e8oIbsTqeIiWoDDn6/8 cbNu3RHZ8IBDDv85tmiZOinDod48QIGyRiyMg/XVEJt3XMOgmY7DsV65LxLEZyKX81BS f2gSOWDoLQbeXTn0vFHXfkOBlD39nc7Zqp2wyzDtJAYhTyaQ+SE2XMus+OzOyzUXvS/k ujR+u4hOuOr97CzxO7TAgMZMHrvUPUOQHpvc9UX5w+KSorvrLrIgmlnsoLsu4VVd1Odt F3hw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIguShMnRMOBkTxQyyrI2EpAZwVUvkwnyNuFVcgur9FzzwzZEO5CfDloPkZVPTJ39ByhWWg11bU6EEfRQ== X-Received: by 10.237.63.119 with SMTP id q52mr30339032qtf.29.1484597493239; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:11:33 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.16.132 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:11:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1604622.bZRWYHrp25@pinacolada> From: Rich Freeman Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:11:32 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: oskYGOxz3p0xmOQBHua5wXFlAZ4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Formally have Council oversee the Foundation 2.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 49e97fc5-0b61-4dc4-8327-39bb8cda0c0d X-Archives-Hash: a9bfee5513a85949e08960cf812c527b On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Dale wrote: > > I would strongly suspect that Gentoo would have to have all its ducks in > a row before it would even be considered. Sure, but: 1. The list of items that need to be settled to move to SPI may be smaller in scope than the list of things that need to be settled to keep running the Foundation. 2. The Foundation would only need to be fully caught up for a moment in time to execute the handover, and then it would be gone. 3. Since #1/2 would be a well-defined finite set of work it could be bid out and professionals could be hired to do the heavy lifting. I think that this represents a fairly different burden than the one of trying to keep things running properly forever. If you handed a CPA $10k to get all the books in order then six months later they'd be a mess again. It is like the difference between maintaining a house, and getting it in good enough shape to sell. Sure, if you've been maintaining your house all along then nothing needs to be done to sell it, but if not the prospect of just hiring some professionals to do a fixed set of cleanup tasks for a short term is probably more welcome than all the work that goes into keeping the house in tip-top shape all the time. -- Rich