From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6DE1138330 for ; Wed, 30 May 2018 18:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49CC9E091A; Wed, 30 May 2018 18:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pl0-f52.google.com (mail-pl0-f52.google.com [209.85.160.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06F05E0908 for ; Wed, 30 May 2018 18:56:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pl0-f52.google.com with SMTP id c41-v6so11616748plj.10 for ; Wed, 30 May 2018 11:56:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=pcTxRu2BGAaLzSqqoypWz3iTI8R+wmDRSgDzlBkE1pE=; b=InWc4AbbbEKwDzZQhf5/d/5bfe5k6+o1u2v45KArcHfJRCke1pwnLQ6WRx1Ze5dk8C t7Ffwo2p5np60hGIr8w+RNokTp8+tpyO3tXsLdUklmbh/ApKcZAX7vJ+pjtugsZdFhMr Rh/rBuHzd/aNW8sv47TYfjlLfUEQUaOeC0oGzbSojcWXRHMTVob4j7S+rWgZ9HCL5Wai hxGW6XhJXwEzSeJi36CxpB2aR54EVXFbVatMFr46PkZ0AeX89dtgV206oS9pHwbiaOGK WBiLsaudOBlVJzuLRfEWSVdRygq+OzGLXPM0Y/tRN/wXJMgGUIz82/E47XB4nAvzRhXm J0dQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwckuDRDoZjuZ8ev8/0ziMzrnSiWB+u1B7NvMPvF/9VuGxc1COvl Fm2x7MfhUp63RjKuubX6C0z3KoNfWUgO4/Bs+gzshg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKKPDtTmT8PdfGLTLPH9kRpBwmET17rPwKvY2obrpa3NbZcPHIuDbQiklHHFAGW130DSGXPVzZCx1+8DN4TW51Y= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:748b:: with SMTP id h11-v6mr4026385pll.12.1527706616500; Wed, 30 May 2018 11:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <23310.46809.293787.611345@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> In-Reply-To: From: Rich Freeman Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 14:56:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Poll: Would you sign a Contributer License Agreement? To: gentoo-project Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 77cded58-a6a1-474d-8d4c-a4c90cf700a5 X-Archives-Hash: 5dcb0a3c58fe3f8a2d12c64bb0281715 On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:45 PM Robin H. Johnson wrote: > I have a nit question: > Can we please call the agreement "FLA" instead of "CLA", since it is > derived from FSFE's FLA-2.0, and is still a FLA at it's heart, rather > than a USian-centric CLA? As a USian, I second the motion. I think the FLA is a copyleft approach to CLA-like documents and I'd prefer that anybody who is adverse to CLAs in general take a moment to understand what the FLA does before rushing to judgment. I believe this one was created using the FSFe's recommended attributes, which are very GPL-like at heart. It grounds the Foundation power to do the sorts of things we'd probably want them to be able to do, while restricting their ability to do the sorts of things they probably shouldn't be able to do. This extends to anybody who might seize control of the Foundation legally (such as via a lawsuit/judgment), and as a result it gives nefarious people less of an incentive to attempt to do so. But, the above is subjective. Go read the document or the FSFe's descriptions of the FLA to understand what it does. It is more than just a "copyright assignment for Germany." -- Rich